thanks ray for the supporting words.i also think its a bacterial thing that attacked the young early either still in the egg or as first free swimming.
the first batch i had ver nice shape these are deformed so i think it will be viable to get some babys from this pair.
and i know its ment to be difficult to be a discus breeder.is that not part of the challenge?
i cand see grandads point as he is a hearty loving guy! weather its a right or wrong thing to do im keeping a open mind.
Thanks to those that have offerd to take some of the fry off me

i will be in contact
