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Old 06-16-2008, 01:53 PM
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Default Government response to a petition asking for ban of fish as prizes

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The Animal Welfare Act 2006 contains a provision relating to the giving of pets as prizes. When the draft version of the Act was published in July 2004, the Government proposed to introduce a total ban on the giving of animals as prizes. In the version of the Act that was introduced in the House of Commons on 13 October 2005 we proposed to limit the ban to unaccompanied children under the age of 16. This proposal is now part of the final Act which received Royal Assent on 8 November 2006.

We reconsidered the proposal for a total ban in light of the Government's better regulation agenda. Our conclusion was that the possible welfare benefits of a total ban were minimal and did not justify ending the great pleasure felt by children and their families when they win a pet as a prize. Finally the provision on pets as prizes in the Act is in line with the provision that raises from 12 to 16 the age at which children can buy a pet.
Anyone else think this is complete rubbish (to put it politely)?
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Anyone else think this is complete rubbish (to put it politely)?
just the government sweeping it all under the table as usual

absolutley no though of the suffering of the millions of fish that have to endure this inhumane treatment ( a plastic bag at the fair and a totally inadequate goldfish bowl for the rest of thier pityfully short life .
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just the government sweeping it all under the table as usual

absolutley no though of the suffering of the millions of fish that have to endure this inhumane treatment ( a plastic bag at the fair and a totally inadequate goldfish bow,l for the rest of thier pityfully short life .
The fact is people can't relate to a goodfish as an animal in the same way they can with small furry pets. The fact longterm a goldfish needs more room, will be more expensive and lives longer than say a hamster doesn't matter. It's small and cheap, it doesn't matter if it suffers.
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every living animal bred for food deserves to live in an environment that is at least adequate for them and not the filth and sqaulor a lot of them find themselves in eg battery hens etc , there is not much help for them so what chance has a poor old goldfish got .
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Good find Rob

I've highlighted the parts i really do not agree with

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The Animal Welfare Act 2006 contains a provision relating to the giving of pets as prizes. When the draft version of the Act was published in July 2004, the Government proposed to introduce a total ban on the giving of animals as prizes. In the version of the Act that was introduced in the House of Commons on 13 October 2005 we proposed to limit the ban to unaccompanied children under the age of 16. This proposal is now part of the final Act which received Royal Assent on 8 November 2006.

We reconsidered the proposal for a total ban in light of the Government's better regulation agenda. Our conclusion was that the possible welfare benefits of a total ban were minimal and did not justify ending the great pleasure felt by children and their families when they win a pet as a prize. Finally the provision on pets as prizes in the Act is in line with the provision that raises from 12 to 16 the age at which children can buy a pet.



Sorry....but W.T.F (what the ****)

The "great pleasure felt by children and families" well boo bloody hoo, why can't they just settle for a fluffy toy or some other "pleasure"
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Good find Rob

I've highlighted the parts i really do not agree with

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The Animal Welfare Act 2006 contains a provision relating to the giving of pets as prizes. When the draft version of the Act was published in July 2004, the Government proposed to introduce a total ban on the giving of animals as prizes. In the version of the Act that was introduced in the House of Commons on 13 October 2005 we proposed to limit the ban to unaccompanied children under the age of 16. This proposal is now part of the final Act which received Royal Assent on 8 November 2006.

We reconsidered the proposal for a total ban in light of the Government's better regulation agenda. Our conclusion was that the possible welfare benefits of a total ban were minimal and did not justify ending the great pleasure felt by children and their families when they win a pet as a prize. Finally the provision on pets as prizes in the Act is in line with the provision that raises from 12 to 16 the age at which children can buy a pet.



Sorry....but W.T.F (what the ****)

The "great pleasure felt by children and families" well boo bloody hoo, why can't they just settle for a fluffy toy or some other "pleasure"
I'll add my own added highligh in blue. It's a complete lie.
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it's very sad to think the majority of fish who are "won" get thrown into bowls with no filtration and die

what a waste of fish.
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Sad but true but winning a goldfish at a fair (yes it was kept in a bowl) started me on this hobby, which I have enjoyed, and cried over many times over the past 50+ years.
I fully agree that fish as prizes should be totally outlawed, surely one of the unelected, faceles morons in Brussels must have brought in legislation by now.
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I remember about 6-7 years ago at some fair the 'pikeys' had thousands of goldfish in a wheelie bin to be won as prizes.
then at the end of the 3 days of the fair i witnessed them just tip the wheelie bin into the park pond where the fair was being held, there must have been at least 50 fish released into the pond with no regard for the fish or the local wildlife.
i still visit the park and some of the fish have survived to this day they are now 12" +
but you should have heard the abuse i got from said 'pikieys' when i tried to intervene twats
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