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Koi, Fancy Goldfish & Ponds If you are into Koi and pondkeeping, including fancy goldfish and all aspects of water gardening, then this is the section for you. Fancy goldfish are welcome here.

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Old 06-14-2008, 03:36 PM
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wood green m8 i put a post on the fourm for some help with my new pond but no info at the mo lol
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Old 06-14-2008, 06:40 PM
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nice pond beware of herons getting in thier right bu****s, chap down the road had 30 koi a few year ago circa 50 grands worth, heron had the lot one morning.
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I'd love to have a few more fish in their that were native to the UK but think the koi wouldn't get on with them so well.
If you have space for more fish and the filtration can cope, you could keep tench (green, golden or red/white) or crucian carp. Both of those should get on well with koi.
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peter u said it was green/murky as taken in winter? i think you should keep filter/pump running all year mate!
i may have miss understoodoos though
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:03 PM
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peter u said it was green/murky as taken in winter? i think you should keep filter/pump running all year mate!
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Hi Guys , yes you should keep the filter pump running 24/7 although this has nothing to do with green water . It has to do with the good bacteria that your filter holds . Turn the pump off and that bacteria dies Come spring when you turn it back on again , you are then in to new filter syndrome , your filter now has to work twice as hard to regain everything that has been lost .

OK explanation , in the wild fish live in lakes and rivers, mother nature provides all that they need, but in a home pond they do not get that benefit , the fish rely on us to ensure that the water they are kept in contains everything they need to survive .

Our filtration system is not just there to filter out all the crap that is in our ponds, it serves a far greater purpose . The good bacteria that builds up in it also reduces the harmful bacteria that can seriously cause the death of our fish. . There are three main elements in our ponds that if they are wrong can cause the death of our fish, Ammonia, Nitrite and a swing in the PH balance. Our filters help control those factors, turn them off and you are back to square one.
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Ok I know some off you may cringe when you read this... Sorry to all those.. Others might feel like calling the RSCPA! Carry on, do it

I've been turning my pump off through the winter months for the last 8-10 years.

I'd say my pond gets at least 3-4 months a year with no pump on and no UV on.
During the extreme winter they also don't get fed at all.

I have koi now that I had since I had my first pond, bought them at 2-3" and there now big and healthy as any Koi I've ever seen.

I would say my pond being more of a natural type, with plants and a bit of algae would always have above and beyond the amount of bacteria alive and kicking because I haven't ever overstocked.

I would never claim to be any sort of koi expert, when I started out keeping them I learnt purely form word of mouth, no wonderful internet back then!

The only times I've ever lost fish was once when my largest ghost koi was egg bound and unfortunately she died. One time one jumped out and was found laying next to the pond. I did lose one that can't be explained as it simply vanished and no sign of it (I put it down to being nicked by some scallywag).

The only time I've lost fish to talk of, was during my house moves. None ever died during transportation, but did die during there time in other ponds.

This was while they were being looked after by the kind of keepers who had really posh setups and did it all the "right way" with all the treatments and adding this and that to the water. I've always found my losses are minimal to the point of zero. Having spoken to other guys who would call themselves "serious koi men" I've lost a lot less in comparison then any of them.

I wont change what I've been doing because all my fish have always been healthy and I've never had any problems *touch wood*. Bar the egg bound incident when the fish did need treatment, but still died I've never lost any coldwater fish to illness. Anyone is welcome to come and view my pond any time and I promise you, the fish are as healthy as you'll find anywhere.

Of course I'm not saying my way is the right way, I'm not saying other people should do as I do. But I think my losses and the general health of the fish speak for themselves.

Let's not lose sight of the fact that many koi imported to over here are bred and grown out in things that resemble swaps morethen garden ponds!

I would advise any koi keeper or keeper of any coldwater fish to have algae. Don't go down the road of the super clear no algae pond, it might look nice but is it natural no.

Each to their own but I stand by my methods of keeping my coldwater fish.
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I would advise any koi keeper or keeper of any coldwater fish to have algae. Don't go down the road of the super clear no algae pond, it might look nice but is it natural no.
I agree 100%.
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