another thing ian, dont waste ya cash on "live sand" how can it be live if its been in a bag on a shelf for months...get some sand + get duncan to give ya a couple handfulls of his and just add it to yours, thatll save ya few quid put it towards more LR, also if ya going fish only you wont need as much LR anyway, also [not to my taste] maybe use some ocean rock as a base like duncan has still more cash saved

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