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Posted	Coldwater beginner DISEASE!
29-09-2005 00:45 by Christiano	Hi sorry, I'm new to fish and have got a 13 gallon coldwater aquarium. I was wondering if anyone could help me. I have 3 fish... a black moor an 2 orandas. Yesturday they came down with ich or white spot disease so i rushed my self down to my local pet shop and bought a medicine for it. over today and last night they have cleared up a bit but it looks as tho theyre now getting fin rot and my black moor especially has cotton wooly patches round his fins AND eyes! Basically is it easy to cure? how do you cure it? and how do avoid anymore little surprises like this? Any help would be great, thanks a lot for listening to me ramble cheers:-?
29-09-2005 07:25 by chris	sounds like a secondary infection on the moor, fancy coldwater fish need good water quality. sometimes tho when they come in from the suppliers to the retail outet they could can have bacterial infection (which leads to secondary infection) i would do a water change of about 30% and take the moor out. and get your money back from the pet shop or replacement.
29-09-2005 10:33 by Christiano	Turns out over night that my black moor died and one of my orandas. Just one lil fellow on his own now, looking quite bored! could you give me any general advice on keeping fish because the booklets iv read are extremely vague! Oh and do you know anywhere tht does fish tanks at good prices? Thanks a lot for your help, appreciated.
29-09-2005 10:51 by yvonne	I got a couple of good deals off ebay for tanks, a good book to have is you and your aquarium by dick mills, helped me i lot when i first started keeping fish.
29-09-2005 11:01 by Alan	What do you know about fish husbandry do you know about the nitrogen cycle etc. I would suggest you take a look on the practical fishkeeping website www.practicalfishkeeping.co.uk there is basic information there that will explain how to look after fish. I could explain it all here but the thread would be massive. In the short term though can you answer these questions. 1. Did you treat the tap water you put in the tank with a dechlorinator (if no this is your first problem) 2. Do you have a filter in the tank and did you mature the tank before adding any fish. If your answer to this is yes but 1 is no you may as well say no to this one as the chlorine will have undone all the maturing the tank and filter had done. Basically you need to insure you have a filter, dechlorinator, a good book (ISBN 1-903098-00-9 is a good one for explaining water quality and management in plain english). I would also recommend an air pump with goldfish as they require well oxygenated water and the air pump will greatly increase gas exchange. I would also suggest that you need to get some filter bacteria you can either take some from a mature tank if any one you know keeps fish, it doesn't matter if they keep freshwater tropical the bacteria is the same (not all of it just a little bit) and put this in your filter this will start working straight away or add a bacterial culture stress zyme and cycle are both good for this but be sure to use a dechlorinator on any water you put in the tank before doing either I find the most effective way of maturing a tank quickly is to do a combination of both. Also when you wash the filter sponge don't do it under the tap rinse it in water taken from the tank this way you won't be killing any bacteria just removing solids. I suspect you have a water quality problem so if you have a dechlorinator carry out some large water changes this will buy you some time whilst getting to the bottom of the problem. As far as good tanks it depends where you are in the country and what you are after. Do you want an all singing all dancing off the shelf set up or do you want to put one together yourself. If you are able to put one together yourself this can work out far more cheaply than an off the shelf tank setup. If you need advice on what you need to do your own set up post tank size on here and you will get a great deal of help. Again don't want to get into this unless you need to know as the thread will expand rapidly and the first priority is the goldfish you have left. Incidentally goldfish are not the easiest fish to start with if you do loose this fish as well I would be happy to recommend some tropical fish that are far easier to look after.
29-09-2005 14:26 by danny boy	well covered alan.
29-09-2005 18:50 by christiano	Alan ur a beast! thanks for all the info i know where im goin wrong now. I would ideally like to put a tank together my self. My mate has a massive tropical aquarium so i might start tropical aswell. Would it be fine just to nab some of his water? again, thanks a lot.
29-09-2005 19:01 by Christiano	Oh i live in Fareham by the way between portsmouth and southampton! (relating to the tank business) thanks
30-09-2005 08:48 by Alan	A good cheap tank supplier is www.meraquatica.co.uk I'm not sure what there delivery range is but they provide excellent quality budget tanks and cabinets. They are based just north of London. Filtration I would go for an eheim classic canister filter either the 2213 or the 2215 or perhaps 2 of them really depends on the size of tank. These are cheaper than fluvals but are well engineered like all eheims they are totally hassle free. If sticking with coldwater you won't need a heater you will also need lighting straight forward T8 tubes would be sufficient depending on the depth of the tank you may need more than one flourescent. I would use a thin layer of sand as a substrate it won't collect detritus in the same way as gravel about 3/4" depth of sand would be sufficient siphon water through this whenever you carry out water changes this will keep it clean and prevent it going anaerobic and compacting. I would also recommend you get a powerful air pump and put a couple of airstones in the tank you want to max the gas exchange with goldfish especially when summer comes round they will really appreciate it. You could nab some of your friends water but a better bet would be to get some of his filter media and just make sure you use a dechlorinator when carrying out water changes also your friend will be a great source of info if you have an emergency so keep his number handy.
27-01-2006 23:29 by Mark Vahey	I DO realise I am a little late on this conversation... HOWEVER I do have a very good tank set-up for sale - spec as follows; Size: 1m long X 0.300mm wide X 0.400mm high with hood and light Integrated stand incorporating built in cupboard 0.700mmH x >0.700mm Wide X 0.300mm deep charcoal effect Internal filter and pump Undergravel filter and pump Airstone, tubing and fittings Decorative rocks and features Gravel Nitrate test kit 2 Nets Instruction manual I live on the outskirts of Southampton and am very keen to shift this as I now need the space since the arrival of our latest rugrat! I am looking for £80 o.n.o. - COLLECTION ONLY I look forward to hearing from any interested parties. She is all cleaned up and ready to go.

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