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| Posted | Please help im about to start a Koi pond |
| 24-10-2005 01:45 by Ian |
Please help, i have put a pond in my garden and ordered 25 koi 2-3", then i realised that i would need some good tips on how to keep them alive, feeding, warmth,plants, when to stop feeding in winter ect, wish i had thought about that first before i jumped in head first.
Sorry about this Ian |
| 24-10-2005 09:31 by yanton |
Ian how big is your pond and what filtration system are you using? |
| 24-10-2005 12:23 by newbie fishkeeper |
http://www.vcnet.com/koi_net/ |
| 24-10-2005 15:30 by Linda |
If I were you I would not put them in a pond at this time of year because it would be almost impossible to get the filter to mature during cold weather. I would keep them either inside in tanks or cancel the order. If you have a freind that has a mature pond then maybe you could overwinter them there. |
| 24-10-2005 16:27 by yanton |
also, you need to be sure they have been acclimatised to outdoor (cooler) life. winter is on the way. |
| 25-10-2005 00:07 by Ian |
Thanks for the tips my pond is 6ft X 7 ft X 3ft deep but there are shallow parts
I havnt got a filter yet im still trying to find the right one Any more advice please |
| 25-10-2005 00:55 by Ian |
Very good link you gave me newbie keeper
Thanks |
| 25-10-2005 08:12 by Alan |
You will need a filter and a bloody big one at that. 25 koi will produce an enormous amount of waste plus your pond is really only big enough for 3 or 4 adult koi.
If space is an issue I would look into pressure filters and fluidised sand bed filters these are easier to manage on a retrofit. Gravity fed systems really need to be put in when the pond is built. If you go for the pressure filters you may be able to locate them in a garden shed with a heater on high this will keep the pond water above freezing and may help with the filter maturation at best though you will only get a few degrees but its worth a go. |
| 25-10-2005 15:19 by newbie fishkeeper |
Hey Ian, not one to criticise but you pond seem very small for the amount your getting.
My uncle has a pond 4.5m by 1.5m by 0.7m with a bit of over hang for edges and he only keep four 6" koi in there. My reccomendation is to sell at least 10 if you want enough space for the young to reach into adolescents(6inch) and a further 5 for them to grow to adult size, also taking the threat of disease spread into consideration. Im assuming you bought, or are buying these koi from ebay, whether they're sent by post, or collected personally, i'd also reccomend a 15 - 30min salt bath for the koi to releave stress and any possible diseases they may carry over to your pond. But the link i gave you should explain the basics of koi keeping, one being size and space, which i can only see as being one of the biggest factors of the whole hobby. |
| 25-10-2005 15:33 by newbie fishkeeper |
P.S This has nothing to do with your ordeal Ian but im planning on extending my pond, it's my first one, but ian, make sure you dont go cheap skate on the equipment you buying for your pond, every penny is worth it, my pond had many problems because i did'nt feel it was necessary to buy so much stuff, but my 3 goldfish had whitespot, my other goldfish had anchorworm, my koi had sorespots by it's gills and my shubunkins had finrot, i've lost many stock because of my ignorance, so i had to start over, my restored pond is now doing much better despite it's condition, if you want i could email you a short list of what would be of any use to your pond, mainly about food, water conditions and fish health. |
| 25-10-2005 17:35 by Ian |
Hi there everyone
Looks like i did jump in head first, but the 25 koi are very small so i have decided to build a second pond in a few months, (that one nearly killed me). Anyway newbie me email address is iancuza@msn.com and all advice is appreciated. Thanks again everyone |
| 25-10-2005 19:49 by yanton |
Ian, why not go with what you have, get a filteration system asap. then next year when the young koi have grown a bit and starting to settle in their colouration (this changes a bit in the younger time of the fish), then keep only 10 that you like most, and sell on the other 15.
your size pond is OK until your fish get to about 4" in size (as long as you have a filtration system), but when the fish get much bigger than that, you are overstocking and need to thin them out. you will probably find yourself with some new koi friends by then, so passing on excess fish shouldnt be a problem. |
| 25-10-2005 23:53 by Ian |
Thanks Yanton
I will go with your advice and it also save me works as well so thats a bonus Cheers Ian |
| 02-11-2005 08:23 by Gardenworks GB ltd |
Ian
have just returned from hols and have read this thread. first i would suggest that you only feed wheatgerm and sparingly at that next get yourself a good book and read this. you have done exatly what a lot of people do but at least you realise that you have jumped too quickly. you have about 750 gallons in your pond and only 3feet of water. koi should be kept in a minimum of 4 feet and a minimum of 1000 gallons. see if you can return some of the fish to where you bought them. on this size pool a very large green geenie matched with a good quality pump should keep the pool clear |
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