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Posted	White spot
17-01-2006 23:39 by tomdoc	hi i have a blue dammsell which is very teritrial.every time i add tangs they get white spot and its only the tangs. when i put them in the tank the dammsell likes to have a bash at any new fish .. i thought this could be the reason y the whitespot comes on the tangs due to stress and fear from the damesell..sombody told me that the whitespot is is my live rock and any tang i add will get it ..? i found this hard to belelive due to white spot needs a host .. can somebody please aggree it could be the dammsell or cud it be somthing else
17-01-2006 23:52 by RYAN	i'v got snail from from rocks that have been out of water for over a two week. you can buy some thing to kill unwanted invaders. you just leave rock to soke for a while and it kills everything (you'll have a dead rock after using it).
17-01-2006 23:57 by hev	Hiya! well, both of the things you were told are true! Damsels ARE very aggressive, hence why i spent 4 weeks trying to catch mine out to take back to the shop! Tangs are very prone to stress and very prone to whitespot. whitespot is a free swimming parasite in its larvel stage (it will swim in your water), they can sense a stressed fish and then will attatch themselves to this fish, growing into a, well a white spot! any bacterial, fungal or parasitic disease is always in the water, and bought about by stress, in your case, probably bought on by the change in conditions from the tang's perevious tank, and the damsel's bullying. you will prob find that, yes, any tang you get WILL contract whitspot, but this doesnt mean they have to die! whitespot is treatable. but, there is every chance it could keep coming back all the time the damsel is there to enduce stress (im afraid its what they do best!). hope this helps, if you need anymore help - were here! hev.x Ps. A REALLY good W.S Treatment is 'Widerange treament' by ESHA. if you have a reef tank, its the pink bottle, and if its a fish only tnk, its the blue bottle. As the name suggests, its a wide range treatment, that will clear up most things! but, alot of things can be done naturally too - for example cleaner wrasse, cleaner shrimp and neaon gobies! anyways, im tired, off to bed! x
17-01-2006 23:59 by hev	Ryan is obviously planning on getting you to kill your live rock!
18-01-2006 00:06 by tomdoc	ok thanks for the help will it be usefull to get rid of the dammsell to reduce the whitespot
18-01-2006 00:13 by hev	i tried everything to get mine out without moving the rockwork. best solution is: squash bottle or plastic bottle with a wide neak. chop of the top, turn inside out. put some food inside, then put into the tank. the fish will swim in and eat the food, then not be able to get back out again. i must warn you tho, damsels are very clever, youll prob catch everything else int he tank before you get him! put the trap entrance near damsels usual hangout, so he can smell the food~! look at this link for an example of a minnow trap! https://media5.magma.ca/www.canadiancamo.com/catalog/images/7720335.jpg
18-01-2006 09:07 by Alan	Esha oodinex is a good marine whitespot treatment I believe it is the reef safe one to. How big is this demonic damsel and how big have the tangs been and which tangs have you tried to add. Also how much cover is in the tank and is your ph less than 8.2. I find fish are more prone to stress and therefore whitespot with a ph less than 8.2. Also it is very common for whitespot to be present at a low level in aquaria it only overwhelms fish when they are stressed. You could try adding a UV sterilizer to the tank I found it helped tremendously when I first set up my marine tank. The other thing is when adding a new fish to a marine tank you need to spend a long time slowly matching the water in the tank to that in the bag the fish is in I normally spend about 1-2 hours or longer if the fish are prone to stress like tangs and I add an egg cup full of water from the tank into the bag every ten minutes. You would get away with not doing this with the damsel as they are one of the hardiest marine fish available. Let us know the exact stocking of your tank and the system you are running it on whether an ecosystem high tech or a hybrid of both also let us know how much live rock you have in the tank the size of the tank volume ideally in imperial gallons I don't do metric. Also how many grazers do you have in the tank I aim for 1 dwarf hermit for every 2 gallons or one astrea snail for every gallon you need to decide if you want to opt for snails or hermits though if you opt for snails there are a wider variety of grazers at your disposal personally I prefer the hermits on the basis of speed of results but Im inclined to believe that snails are the better option as you can target specific problem areas with specific species and they also don't tend to annoy corals as much as hermits do but I opted for hermits so I will have to stick with that decision.
18-01-2006 19:30 by hev	or you could drip aclimatise the fish in a bucket, with a bit of airline. tie a knot in the airline to slow down the flow
19-01-2006 19:00 by richard. youell	another good treatment for whitespot is extract of garlic is great stuff and you can use it as part of their every day diet so its a preventative as well.
19-01-2006 22:52 by tomdoc	i use that .. but dose not work for me
12-04-2006 11:25 by Alan	Another option is to drop the salinity to about 1.017 for 2 weeks that will literally make the parasites explode at the free swimming stage in theory corals will not be harmed by this neither will other inverts as they are higher organisms and better equiped to cope.

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