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Posted	whats better??
11-03-2006 15:59 by jigga	what is better for a marine filter? bio balls alfa grog ceramic rings
11-03-2006 20:08 by Jim Son	ceramic rings
11-03-2006 20:58 by tex	what do u know about marine filter jim son???
11-03-2006 20:59 by Jim Son	more than you Tex, i have kept marine for 12 years mate, what do you know eh?
11-03-2006 21:07 by tex	u lie mate
12-03-2006 14:00 by jamesk	well can see you to need to chill out lads the guys only asking a question and jigga as to your question one very simple answer live rock it out performs everything you are asking what is best no filter with any type of media is as good as live rock anyone like to disagree
12-03-2006 15:40 by jigga	this will be my first marine attempt my plan is a fish only 3x1x1 with 2 fluval 204's a red sea prizm skimmer a couple of powerheads for circulation and some live rock. how much live rock should i get?? and is this going to work with this equipment?
12-03-2006 19:33 by jamesk	for your tank you would need around 12/15kilos off live rock if you go down the live rock way dont use internal or external filters they will cause problems if you already have them and want to use them only put carbon rowphos in them do not use them a biological filters your tank is sorry to say very small the larger your tank the more stable it will be ie tempreture salinity will also be more stable you are trying to create the most stable enviroment you can for your fish a small tank if you dont look after it will quickly become a death trap for your fish if you do not keep looking after it i would advise you strongly to get the biggest tank you can keep your skimmer dump fluvals and keep powerheads have you thought on what lighting you are going to use
12-03-2006 21:40 by jigga	thanx for the advice. i have got t5 lights. i have got bigger tanks but this was a spare i thought i could try something diferent.
12-03-2006 23:16 by garry	jigga it will be beter if you get as much liverock as you can to filter your tank you do not need any other type of filter
12-03-2006 23:20 by jamesk	t5 good will do the trick because this is your first marine tank i would suggest a bigger tank it really depends on how much you know and how much time you are willing to spend looking after it think of it this way you will spend a lot on fish and live rock lighting filters etc why jeapordise your investment in marines by making things more difficult for yolurself by setting up a small tank not saying you wont look after it or your not capable marines are not hard to look after its just a bigger tank will be a lot more forgiving if you neglect it now and again as well as the bigger tank will be so much more stable which means happy fish less stress etc
13-03-2006 12:35 by Alan	With a tank this size I would try a nano reef. Fish would be small gobies like neon gobies and grazers. You have about 18 gallons to play with this is what I would do. I'm hoping you don't have a skimmer yet? I would go for a small air driven skimmer these are very efficient and don't cost a fortune. Look on the comparison page above at protein skimmers) £20 will get you a good one and with a good air pump will do all the skimming you need. 10 kilos of live rock should be sufficient with a sprinkling of aragonite sand on the base live sand if you can get it max depth of 1 inch. The T5 lighting on a tank this shallow will be sufficient for soft corals perhaps even SPS but I wouldn't suggest SPS in a tank this small. You need a pump that will turnover at least 20 times the tank volume per hour so either one pump that will manage 1700 litres per hour or 2 pumps that will achieve this or more between them. If you have the canisters I would make use of them although I would put no media in them the extra volume of water would just be very helpful in fact a good way of managign water changes would be to change the water held in these canisters doing that would avoid disturbing the tank. Your tank will hold in the region of 80 litres so if you have 2 canisters that hold in total 10 litres of water this would be the equivalent to a water change of 12.5% which is an ideal level. You will need to establish whether or not the canisters will hold sufficient water though. All you would do to do the water change is shut of the pipes to the filters and then poor the contents of the filters into a bowl this will give you a measure of exactly how much water you will need to replace. Once the new water is mixed fill the 2 canisters put it all back together and then turn your filters on hey presto water change without fiddling around in the tank. Livestock 5 dwarf red leg hermits 5 turbo snails Variety of button polyps yellow and the like these are relatively easy and spread nicely. Mushroom colonies again easy and quite nice in appearance. You could add a small leather coral or pussey coral but they would probably take over the tank so at some point would need rehoming but if you were careful with the design of the rock work you should be able to easily remove it with out causing to much disturbance to the inhabitants. Fish: Nothing big think small is beautiful. Fridmani Basslet (stunning fish) Pyjama wrasse (great first fish) 2 Percula clowns (tank bred they will form a pair) 2 or 3 neon gobies (they will probably attempt to breed) You may get away with a dwarf angel, a coral beauty would be perfect perhaps keep the dwarf angel as the alternative to the pyjama wrasse. 2 cleaner shrimp wouldn't go a miss either. Hope that helps!
13-03-2006 17:15 by jigga	thanks for all the advice i will try it out and let you know. this only came about because i had a big sort out of fish stuff and i had all the equipment spare. i thought about converting one of my 6x2x2 to marine but decided to keep it freshwater for rays. if i do well with the small tank i my change my mind. thanks again

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