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Posted	What goes with Angels and convicts ?
07-04-2006 21:04 by Zoe	I have a new tank with 3 largish angels (approx 3 inches), have also put in 4 baby convicts 2 are about 1 inch, and two tiny ones about half an inch, are these ok together, they seem fine so far ? What else could i add ?
07-04-2006 21:10 by heros hero	This is one for lexter the convict king.I'd reckon those convicts won't take long to find those angels more than just tank mates,but i'll bow to lexters' greater convict wisdom!
07-04-2006 21:17 by Lexter	thank you
07-04-2006 21:20 by Lexter	trouble is i dont know much about Angels.... in my experience with young Convicts, because they are smaller than the angels if they do (ever) give grief it shouldnt happen for quite a while. I have not experienced young convicts (less than 1 inch) giving grief to any fish bigger than them (except they may try to "take on" one of their bigger siblings) if the angels can catch the tiny convicts it might be the angels doing the "out of the count" move!!!! if your angels are 3" and your convicts are half inch, you got a good few weeks or months before any problems, and even then one thing you got going for oyu, is that the convicts are growing up with the angels and the angels will always be bigger (atleast for a year or two i guess)
07-04-2006 21:21 by Zoe	yes i've just been reading how inch for inch they're about as mean as they come ! man in the shop said they'd be fine because they're tiny they'd grow up with the angels and get used to them, saw the blonde coming didn't he !
07-04-2006 21:21 by Lexter	scrub the comment about "weeks" i think based on the size factor it will be the angels if anything to keep an eye on
07-04-2006 21:22 by Lexter	blondes are very welcome on the forum Zoe, especially ones that keep Convicts!
07-04-2006 21:23 by Lexter	just dont put any fish in the tank that are smaller than the convicts are, I found my 4 week old convicts eating my 1 week old convicts last weekend!!!
07-04-2006 21:23 by Zoe	hoping to add some young yellow lab, what to you think ?
07-04-2006 21:23 by Zoe	i'd have trouble finding anything smaller than these they're tiny, i've seem bigger neons !
07-04-2006 21:24 by Lexter	people will tell you not to mix Malawi with American cichlids, some of that can be diet related. I think the colour contrast would be great, BUT..... as i said people will advise against it, the yellow lab should be a big bigger but not too big or they may attack the convicts!!! PS - is this going to be a planted tank Zoe???
07-04-2006 21:25 by Zoe	can't believe they're charging £20-£25 for 2 inch parrots at Crews Hill, my biggest is 10 inches now, she's constanly laying eggs.
07-04-2006 21:27 by Zoe	don't knoe at the moment just rocks, what do you think ? Quit new to cichlids myself (apart from our beloved parrot fish family)
07-04-2006 21:27 by Lexter	i go to Crews Hill a lot, thats RIDICULOUS price for a 2" parrot, stay clear of that shop then!!! i hear parrot eggs NEVER hatch
07-04-2006 21:28 by Zoe	no they don't something to do with them being a hybrid, mind you some people say they have had fry so who knows - they must come from somewhere
07-04-2006 21:29 by Zoe	all the shops were charging that price for parrots, went to 6 and the cheapest were £20 and really dodgy looking dyed blue and green
07-04-2006 21:31 by Lexter	hate those dyed parrots, i find most parrots ugly enough as it is without being dyed!!! dont get me wrong have seen SOME attractive parrots, i like the big bright orange type, i had one once but it was not in the right set-up was 5" and i sold it Ray for £10, lovely fish
07-04-2006 21:32 by Zoe	cichlids are quite expensive aren't they, we got 5 young 2"ish yellow labs from someone local for £10 last week then saw them exact same size for £9.50each today !
07-04-2006 21:34 by Zoe	our parrot are the big lovely natural orange ones, we had 6 but lost our first original one last week
07-04-2006 21:35 by Lexter	that price sounds about right, convicts are cheap (ish) tho, Cichlids my favourite fish, Convicts, Kribensis, Firemouth, Blue Acara... I want to start getting into Sajica and related cihlids, my favourite type of cichlids are American
07-04-2006 21:36 by Zoe	yes the convict were only £2
07-04-2006 21:37 by Lexter	i got convicts that size Zoe, would have charged you 75p each, i got 4 breeding pairs of convicts!!!!
07-04-2006 21:37 by heros hero	No problem combining yellow labs with your convicts.My brother in law has a mixed cichlid tank with breeding green severum and a group of breeding yellow labs.Lexter,is there a way of controling the amount of territory that convicts try to take on?
07-04-2006 21:38 by anna	Lexy ur becomin a bit of a specialist!!!
07-04-2006 21:38 by Big Rob	yr lucky shops up here dont seem to sell cons when i ask they say to easy to breed
07-04-2006 21:39 by anna	u should tell them that shouldn't sell guppies then either big Rob!!! what a poor reason!!
07-04-2006 21:41 by Lexter	hi anna
07-04-2006 21:41 by Lexter	if convicts are breeding, dpeends on the temperament, mine insist on woning 97% of the tank, so most of my breeding pairs are in their own (small) set-up, can depend on the temprament of the convict, its the male whos usually the problem, but also the female can be a Bit@h as well If they are not breeding is not nearly as much of a problem, if eggs are present they get aggressive and once the fry are free swimming my Convicts will demand the remaining 3% of the tank, want 100% then STILL not be happy. Thing about Convicts when breeding, they attack IN ADVANCE of a threat, even if other fish are all huddle up in 10% of the tank, the Convict, especially the male will attack them even if they are posing NO threat... my experience is that it is not a sustained attack, but regular brief bombardments!!!!!
07-04-2006 21:42 by heros hero	Lexter,got a pair of breeding sajica.They disappear into a hollow in a piece of bog wood and appear later with over 50 free swimming fry (obviously not in the same day!).They make very good parents,almost as agressive as your beloved convicts.
07-04-2006 21:42 by Big Rob	guppys die easy cons last a lot longer so it takes longer to spend more in shops
07-04-2006 21:44 by Lexter	love the idea of keeping Sajica Heros
07-04-2006 21:44 by Lexter	hero, as for trying tp prevent ocnvicts from owning the tank when breeding, the only thing you can do (in my experience) if a have a tank that has LOADS of rocks, bog wood and hiding places for other fish, if you tank had LOADS of open space, the other fish will be hounded, until you remove the fry (the get extra hounded after that for a few hours, coz the convicts think the other fish have eaten the fry, but after a few hours some sense of order is restored)!!
07-04-2006 21:45 by Lexter	sorry for my typing folks, too fast, need to s-l-o-w down, get over excited on CONVICT talk
07-04-2006 21:46 by telboy	hi zoe,if i were you i wouldnt keep connies + angels together just too much finnage for them connies to resist ya may get away with it for a while but it wont be too long before youll have a tank of finless angels ya can keepyellow labs together as there par for par when it comes to aggression but they do have different needs ie water types food etc so i wouldnt recommend itive got a tank of 3 pairs breeding connies with 3 largeish tin foil barbs also in a 4fter ive got 2pairs connies with a texas cichlid they seem to get on ok but the texas is the guvoner im gonna try oscars + connies next ill let ya know how i get on
07-04-2006 21:47 by Lexter	Convicts - can get some beauties, hardy, never had one die on me (except fry), loads of personality, excellent parents, love to dig up the sand (i find it amusing), cheap if you have to buy them, breed easy and regular, you can breed different colour types (albino with regular),
07-04-2006 21:48 by Lexter	good point about the fins, i havent noticed my cons going for fins, they usally aint that specific to pick out one part of another fish, but Tel Boy may have a point
07-04-2006 21:50 by heros hero	Zoe,you didn't say how big your new tank is.Lexter can tell you at what size they'll start breeding and whether there will be enough roomm for the angels to escape.Hope we've been of use to you o blonde one!!!
07-04-2006 21:50 by Lexter	actually Tel Boy does have a point, one of VERY YOUNG convicts (about 1 cm) too the entire back fin of an expensive adult 3 cm guppy, within 20 secs of putting guppy in tank, people will say, why mix ocnvists with guppies, crazy... but these cons were soooo young and it was only for a day or so
07-04-2006 21:50 by Lexter	got to sort my typing out
07-04-2006 21:51 by Lexter	i have a female convict whom is laying eggs every 3 weeks and she is about 1", i tell you its true!!!
07-04-2006 21:51 by telboy	lexter got 2 big buckets of sand for ya if ya wanna come collect it! just by me 2 orange buckets from b+q[99p each] + then ya can have the sand! let me know
07-04-2006 21:52 by Lexter	if you can give me until end of month (just time wise) i do that deal Uncle Tel Boy and give you a FIVER coz i love you
07-04-2006 21:54 by telboy	oooh matron
07-04-2006 21:55 by Lexter	if i can do it sooner will come over with my boy, love that carzy dog of yours and always like to check your set ups!!!
07-04-2006 21:56 by anna	hi lexy i def wouldnt put cons wiv angels it'll be a massacre!!! lol
07-04-2006 21:56 by Lexter	remind me via email if you need to check the status of my pick up time, i got dementia
07-04-2006 21:56 by Lexter	crazy
07-04-2006 21:56 by Lexter	carzy dog???
07-04-2006 21:57 by Lexter	yeh, but i love a good massacre, escpeically if the cons are doing the massacre(ing)
07-04-2006 21:58 by anna	lolol there b blood shed lexy
07-04-2006 21:58 by Lexter	no you and Tel Boy are right, is okay if the cons are very young but in the long term cold be dodgy, you getting all this Zoe the Parrot Lover????
07-04-2006 22:01 by anna	i wouldnt put yellow labs in their either they have a different water requirement and r aggressive african cichlids!!!!
07-04-2006 22:03 by Lexter	you know your stuff anna
07-04-2006 22:04 by Zoe	oh god just quiclky ate some dinner and come back to read about convict massacre's !!! I'm going off them ! I love my angels and don't want them hurt, might have to chuck the kids goldfish in the pond and make they're little jewel tank convict city !
07-04-2006 22:06 by Zoe	Either that or get a fourth tank, just got a nice beech jewel 180
07-04-2006 22:08 by Zoe	is ther any way of telling male from female convict ?
07-04-2006 22:09 by Lexter	not at that age
07-04-2006 22:10 by Lexter	Wayne seems to know, i have trouble, for me they have to be 1" and i need to see them interact before i know!
07-04-2006 22:11 by telboy	zoe i wouldnt panic just yet as the connies are very small and they're only demonic once theyve spawned [all cichlids are aggressive some are worse than others]do ya know the sexes of the connies yet?
07-04-2006 22:13 by Lexter	Convicts with free swimming fry will dominate fish twice their size
07-04-2006 22:14 by telboy	males will have elongated dorsal+ anal fins+ are generally more blue in colour! females will develop an orangey/yellowey belly when sexually mature but i think yours are still a bit too young to sex 100% give it a couple of weeks!
07-04-2006 22:14 by anna	get a fourth tank!!!! lololol
07-04-2006 22:14 by Lexter	they are half inch, impossible to sex
07-04-2006 22:15 by Lexter	how about get a 7th tank aka Lexter
07-04-2006 22:16 by Lexter	i love my convicts so much i had to let my girlfriend go
07-04-2006 22:16 by Lexter	but.... plenty more fish in the sea
07-04-2006 22:17 by Zoe	one has got alot of yellow colour, the biggest one
07-04-2006 22:17 by anna	lol more cons u mean!!!!!!!
07-04-2006 22:17 by Lexter	the convicts are in my bedroom you see, and if you dont love my convicts..... you dont love ME
07-04-2006 22:18 by anna	lol my main tanks in mine!!!! so i can always watch em!!!!!

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