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Posted	dying fish
16-04-2006 22:00 by milo	will try new topic is there anyone out there. fish are dying white spot cannot get proper meds because of easter hols. tried tcp, water change, salt baths, warm water, more air, less air very very sad HELP
16-04-2006 22:52 by Danny Boy	TCP???? thats got to sting? ok if you do have white spot (im assuming you've looked it up on the net and made certain) then all you need is the correct type of salt (i always forget which) and add a teaspoon for every 5 gals of water you have. then up the temp from 76 to 79-80 this will encourage the spot to hatch and then the salt can kill it off
16-04-2006 23:09 by Lexter	Danny, you know more than me in general, BUT, are you sure about your formula for salt, 1 teaspoon for 5 gallons (22.5 litres) is quite low???
16-04-2006 23:12 by Lexter	Also, Milo, I have researched white spot a bit on net, and the difference between 80F and 82F can be significant, and if your fish can stand it (which they should) you could go to 84F. I read that at 82F the parasite has a life cycle of 12 hours, which means if you have the right stuff in there (meds and / or salt) the parasites will begin to die after 12 hours as they would have all hatched and the parasite can ONLY be killed once its hatched, therefore a higher temp may make the fish slightly uncomfortable (and always make sure you have lots of surface movement) as the oxygen available for the fish depletes, especially if you go to 84F, BUT it will kill the parasite quicker which is in the best interests of the fish obviously
16-04-2006 23:14 by Lexter	depending on your fish, you can go as high as a 3% salt concentration (built up gradually), 3% equates to roughly 3 grams of salt per litre, I believe a teaspoon holds 5 grams????? I would not recommend this much salt for sensitive fish, but I have had guppies and platies live through a week of 3% without any deaths (and this includes in the weeks following)
17-04-2006 07:59 by milo	sorry all should have said my fish are cold water goldfish. have tried to increase temp and add salt but all to no avail. first fish dead this morn. waiting on rest.....
17-04-2006 08:41 by clownloachlady	TCP in small doses does not hurt your fish. BUT Milo i dont know anything about goldfish, sorry... most fishshops will be open today...
17-04-2006 09:44 by anna	rather than puttin salt in the tank milo give them a salt bath for no more than 15mins the theory behind it is that the salt concentration will upset n kill the parasite before upsetin ur fish i would syphon some of your tank water out n add 1 teaspoon per litre. i would also do a lrg wc when the fish look like they have rid themselves of spot as this may help to remove any of the free swimming parasites before they can attach them selves.
17-04-2006 19:15 by milo	hello anna again did the salt baths fish loved it it reduced the paracite for 3 days but it came back with a vengence. Have lost my best fish. Unfortunately there are no pet shops open on easter monday here in Dublin. Dide water change and only one fish is showing signs of ws. Will try meds tomorrow
17-04-2006 19:26 by anna	ooh milo im so sorry i kno how u feel my tank had to go through it the other month i lost half my stock u jus gotta keep going good luck
17-04-2006 20:54 by milo	i will keep trying i will keep trying i will keep trying
18-04-2006 10:48 by Alan	Goldfish can tolerate quite high levels of salt go on www.fishdoc.co.uk.
18-04-2006 20:27 by milo	thanks alan have gone on sith but it seems to recommend increased temp and more salt in water for at least 5 days.
19-04-2006 08:18 by Alan	Sounds about right don't increase the temp to much though as you are talking goldfish not tropical.

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