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Posted	keeping ph at 8.2
29-04-2006 00:56 by verseborn	now i know the ph of the lakes that most african cichlids come from is high.....and i keep my ph at 8.2...but does anyone actually feel that fish do THAT much better because of it?
29-04-2006 01:09 by PAUL OWEN	i'm not sure,only just started testing my water for ph lately,but don't know what ph is right for my fish.
29-04-2006 01:22 by verseborn	and i mean....do cichlids do better with a higher ph?
29-04-2006 02:02 by PAUL OWEN	i'm not well up on the species and ph compatibility,ask Lex,he's more knowledgeable,
29-04-2006 02:31 by Lexter	go to bed Paul, or you are on 24 hours guard duty in-case the misses comes down for some substrate-stirring???
29-04-2006 02:35 by Lexter	i only know what anyone cane get form the Net regarding pH and compatibility. Malawi and Tangy cichlids need high pH (7.5-9.5) and American Cichlids tend to better at a more neutral pH (7.0), but there are acceptions and different aspects, Kribs are African like Malawi and Tangy but prefer more slightly lower (7.0-7.5) but they are quite hardy these days and 8.0 seems to be okay for them, Discus are Cichlids, but they need low pH (below 7.0), and i think a lot of Rams (cichlids) need a lower pH also. Versenoern, post the fish you are keeping, intend to keep and also whether or not its important for you that they breed or you want to breed them, and also dont listen to Paul Owen if he tells you he doesn't know much, he knows a lot, he just has a complex, he's currently about to undertake some therapy with me......
29-04-2006 02:36 by Lexter	the pH quotes are very "informal", and just based my understanding, there are experts on the forum, i am more a "middle man" establishing the link between expert and comedian
29-04-2006 02:55 by verseborn	i got a red zebra...convict... jack demsey....bumblebee's...and a handful ov african's
29-04-2006 03:05 by Lexter	as far as i know, Red Zebra, Convict and Jack Demmpsey fine at 8.2, can speak for bumblebee's tho, and it depends what africans you got, Red Zebra is African Malawi if i am not mistaken?
29-04-2006 19:37 by michael hinson	my frontosas are thriving in my 7.8ph tap water if your fish are ok in the tap water you have dont buffer it or try to boost it,they are more likley to suffer with ph changes.keep the water as they have it now.they are used to it if it aint broke dont fix it(making waaaayyyy to much work for a hobby you are meant to be able to relax with!)
29-04-2006 20:22 by anna	lol i keep my tangs in leicester tap water (ph7.6) all i add is malawi lake salts as i find it helps to keep them happy!
30-04-2006 00:17 by telboy	well said mr hinson!!!
30-04-2006 00:34 by paul stevens	oi oi.
30-04-2006 04:23 by verseborn	yeah but i was acidic... fixed it with 'proper ph' its now 7.8. i barely even mess with my freshwater tank.
02-05-2006 08:21 by Alan	The ideal is to match the ph to that iof the fishes natural environment but something to consider is that many fish in the hobby are tank bred and as such are often aclimatised to a more neutral ph. Wild caught certainly fish like cyathopharynx furcifer and foai need a ph akin to that of tanganyka otherwise they will not survive long term these are challenging fish to keep. Pseudotropheus are indestructable and can tolerate less than ideal conditions. In my experience I have found the fish do better when kept at the correct ph. They tend to be more disease resistant and more vibrant.
07-05-2006 12:28 by mick	i think your spot on alan wild fish are more picky about the ph if you want to keep fish say like frontosas and they have been tank bred you shuold keep the ph to what they have been kept it because if you set the tank up with the ph say to 9 and the frontosas have been kept in ph of 7 this can cause problems an if they are young will more than likely kill them because of sudden change in ph so i think ph is very important and the fish are best kept in the ph there used to
07-05-2006 14:56 by wymcot	The whole issue of water parameters is important, but something a lot of people oberlook or cant be bothered with. If "the fish dont die then dont fix it" is not the best way forward for anyone who is genuinely interested in giving thier fish the best environment. This can be clearly demonstrated by the number of thread posted on here about problems which in most cases is a result of poor water quality & management
08-05-2006 10:27 by Alan	The other difficulty is with test kits being inaccurate I set up a tank to keep a pair of rays in my test gave a ph of 6.5 perfect in the shop test made by same manufacturer ph 7.8 not perfect.

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