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Posted URGENT: Please can you help?
05-05-2006
14:57 by Lory
During the course of 2-3 months I have purchased 2 zebra danios, 1 goldfish, 1 yellow/white goldfish and two baby black moors.

I have never kept goldfish before and relied on the seemingly expert advice of various staff at my local pet centre to ensure I was looking after my new pets properly.

Two goldfish tanks, 1 filter and neon light bulb later, one of my goldfish appears to have whitespot. His fins are relatively clamped and are now starting to fray! He cannot move one fin at all as has red dilated vessels. My other fish are listless too! I have treated the tank with Protozin however this does not seem to have made conditions any better? Is it safe for me to continue treating them with Protozin until the whitespot disappears?

I was originally advised to purchase a 20 L tank (hence my ammonia/nitrite levels shot up) however I now have a 50L Rena tank, an Interpet PF 1 Internal Filter (380 lph) and a Rena 50 Air Pump. NB: The original filter, which came with the tank kept clogging up after around 4/5 days, and the Stress zyme and coat products sold to me by the pet store, were out of date! Needless-to-say, I shall not be returning to that pet store again!

Please, please, please can somebody give me expert advice? I really want to be able to look after my pets properly!!

Thanks very much!
05-05-2006
16:54 by PaddyD
I suspect that the cause of the whitespot could be related to poor water quailiy (new tank syndrome) and you may have a high nitrite level. So before you treat again I would go to a (diferent) aquarium shop. and get them to test the water. If you have a nirite problem the you need to fix this first and then treat the whitespot - this is fairly easy to cure normally and sterazin is pretty good.

Nitrite is a fairly common problem due to a new tank and possibly feeding - I would only feed once every two days as this will reduce the waste the filter has to deal with.

05-05-2006
19:27 by commissar
i would say if the old filter was clogging up that quick you are overfeeding
one word of warning on treating whitespot there is currently a very resistant strain going around and to treat it you need to use exact doses of a product called rid ich+ (this is a formaline and malachite green based product)use everyday for as long as it takes to clear the spots off the fish and then for 3 days after
05-05-2006
20:00 by kell
How long could you go with out feeding fish, if the tank was planted.
05-05-2006
20:02 by von
2 weeks i reckon, alan had this recently, have a look through the threads and see what he did, if alan can't cure it, it can't be cured!
05-05-2006
20:09 by kell
ok Im looking, alans funny, man.
05-05-2006
20:11 by von
http://allfishforums.com/index.php?showtopic=424


I think that was it
05-05-2006
20:14 by Danny Boy
HELLO!!!!! danios with coldwater fish??????

come on guys..

lory you have a few issues. my advice would be to take the danios back to where they came from. they are tropical fish and need warmer water than coldwater fish.

secondly the whitespot is probably best treated with daily water changes id suspect that you need to do a google search on "tank cycle" this is more than likely the reason why your fishes immune system is low and the cause of the ich.

unfortunatly im in a rush to get out and cant eloborate more but any more questions fire away im sure you'll get the answers you need
Dan
05-05-2006
21:37 by heros hero
zebra and leopard danio are quoted in most fish books as being comfortable between 18 and 24C. This temperature is quite easily attained indoors so are fine to be kept in an unheated aquarium with goldfish.
05-05-2006
23:18 by Lory
Hi All

Many thanks for your help with this!!

Lory

08-05-2006
08:55 by Alan
It was hell the problem I had is that I had probably 3 parasites all kick off at once initially the whitespot followed by gill and skin flukes.

I gave up with water life treatments they just don't work.

I used sera costapur this is a malachite green formalin mix I had to use a very high dose though for an extended period of time the recomended dose was something like 12.5 ml for a 100 gallon tank every other day I was dosing 30 mls every day I opted for kill or cure as nothing was working. It has pretty much cleared up now on all but one fish for some reason this one fish cannot get shot of it now trying interpet no 7 so far its looking good. Before changing treatments though make sure plenty of water changes have been done so you don't double up equally with the malachite formalin remedy turn the lights out as malachite green is very unstable and the light from a flourescent will break it down.

The ultimate remedy is to go for something copper based I suspect interpet no 7 is copper based as it cannot be used with inverts and it has had the added benefit of decimating the mts population.
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