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Posted	DISEASED TANK ISSUES
30-05-2006 23:33 by Lexter	sorry to post three different threads, but i need to seperate the issues a little THINKING ABOUT TAKING OUT LIVEBEARERS (20-odd) and PUTTING THEM INTO 2x 24" tanks for a few hours with fairly high salt levels then back into main tank I DONT HAVE ENOUGH MATURE filters to do it longer, and dont really have the time to maintain the extra tanks and set-ups. If i still need to medicate main tank will do it when they go back in, will leave the Kribs alone as they seem unaffected. What do peeps think??? And how much salt to use for guppies, mollies and platies In the meantime could CARBON main tank of remaining meds that didnt work and do a 30-40% water change? Like a SHOCK and AWE tactic as the USA would say
30-05-2006 23:35 by Lexter	for this to make more sense, read my thread http://www.aquarist-classifieds.co.uk/forum/viewtopic_4170.php
30-05-2006 23:36 by Lexter	WEBMASTER - any idea's
30-05-2006 23:40 by Lexter	ALAN or ANYONE ELSE with a good idea based on experience and knowledge what meds (if any) PROTOZON? MYAXIN? ESHA 2000 (what one)? INTERPET (fungus / anti internal bacteria)
30-05-2006 23:58 by paul stevens	Lexter that myaxin is very good used that myself a couple of times.
30-05-2006 23:59 by Lexter	thats what i heard
31-05-2006 00:00 by Lexter	am leaning toward myaxin as have used two different anti-parasite meds and no difference
31-05-2006 08:41 by PaddyD	You probably mean Myxazin - This is not a parasite treatment. It is a bacteriacide - I will read your other posts and see what I can suggest.
31-05-2006 08:50 by D.R.	Lex - What are you treating for? Best to treat everything in the main tank together and only separate fish if they are poorly (clamped fins, lethargic etc)
31-05-2006 09:00 by D.R.	Sorry just read the other thread.... Sounds like a parasite problem initially, and a bacterial secondary problem due to stress from parasites. Treat with a general anti-parasite for skin and gill flukes. Do you have a local retailer who does skin scrappings etc. I would do the post mortem myself only you would have to post some fish (preferably live) as parasites leave the host shortly after death. Read the thread in the diseases section titled - Flukes. I gave Alan some advice on quarantine and would advise every fish keeper to try and have some sort of quar. facility
31-05-2006 09:48 by Lexter	Sterazin is supposed to be for flukes but it did nothing and i did a full dose, that last eight days i think I read previously on here from Alan that Sterzain doesnt appear to "do the job"
31-05-2006 10:29 by paul stevens	Internal Parasites: Internal parasites can be clinically significant in aquarium fish. Metazoan parasites include the skin and gill flukes (monogeneans), cestodes (tapeworms), nematodes, trematodes, and crustacean parasites. With the exception of a severe monogenean skin and gill infestation the presence of these parasites usually does not constitute an emergency. Antemortem fecal examination or a thorough autopsy will diagnose an internal helminth problem.
31-05-2006 10:33 by paul stevens	External Parasites of Fish: · Protozoal diseases constitute the most common disease entity for a tank of pet fish. Some protozoans such as Ichthyopthirius ("Ich") and Cryptocaryon (saltwater "Ich") have an encysted stage which is resistant to chemotherapeutic treatment. When faced with a protozoal outbreak you must look for a source. This will most commonly be the addition of an unquarantined animal to the aquarium or the presence of a stressor such as overcrowding or poor water quality. Protozoal diseases are best treated with a medicated bath. Fish treated in this manner should be removed from the display aquarium and placed in a hospital tank. The treatment tank should be well aerated and any carbon filtration should be discontinued.
31-05-2006 11:01 by Alan	Just to give you an idea of how poor the sterazin was when I tried it. I contacted waterlife and they recommended I did the full does twice a day every day for 10 days. Apparently sterazin isn't very stable and is ineffective within a few hours (what a lot of good that is) it didn't work they then recommended following this with protozin 2 full courses this didn't work either. The best to date is sera costapur although this didn't work on a normal dose I increased the dose 3 fold and treated daily carefully monitoring the condition of my fish this worked well but again did not do all of them (the parasites)in depsite 4 courses at 3 times the normal dose. Now I am using Acriflavine this is working on all but one fish once this has been addressed on all the other fish I will be treating with a high dose of sera costapur to clear this other fish which seems to be the only one that responds to the MF mix probably it is something to do with the morphology of the fish and its ability to produce mucus which protects the parasite from the remedy. Needless to say this is an expensive pain in the a@se I doubt you will have the level of difficulty I am having though. I believe I may have what is termed a chemical resistant strain or at least one that is able to adapt very quickly its drinving me nuts to be frank.
02-06-2006 12:56 by D.R.	Paul Stevens - In the above thread you mentioned that monogeans and crustacean parasites fell into internal parasites. Do you not mean external??

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