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Posted lost my mandarin , a shrip, and yellow goby ,
05-06-2006
09:09 by lisareynar
all died over a week period , we have been doing regular water changes, the fish are not feeding now, and have white powder stuff on them, have increased salt levels so hopefully all this will help
05-06-2006
09:50 by trik
o dear lisa wats going on with your tank!!
tell us all the tank parimiters
temp
ammonia
nitrite
nitrate
phosphates
ph
alkalinity
kh
salinity
calcium (if u have any corals/inverts
dissolved oxygen
copper.
wat filters u have and have u cleaned them out if so did you use tank water.
richard.
05-06-2006
10:07 by trik
iv read your other thread about white spot im not sure but Alan will correct me if im wrong but that treatment u used could be one of the reasons u lost the shrimp.is it invert safe?
05-06-2006
11:24 by lisareynar
it says it is safe
05-06-2006
11:26 by trik
thats ok then iv never used it thats all.
how are the fish now?
05-06-2006
11:26 by lisareynar
the man at our pet shop said we lost shrimp because it had just shed its skin and its body would have been soft enabeling the fish to get it
05-06-2006
11:29 by trik
very possible yes dut strange how u have lost the oter 2 mandarine need very good water conditions and good water circulation.
05-06-2006
11:32 by lisareynar
the fish look a little better , and they are swimming around more, ive noticed they seem worse at night. we have now got about 12kg of rock with xenia coral that seems to be thriving.to be honest we just bought the tank with out knowing about marine fish , the only things i know is what i have learnt off here. (stupid i know). but hopefully we can save the fish. the angel fish with the cloudy eye seems to be clearing too so thats good
05-06-2006
11:33 by trik
not saying your water is poor sorry he may not of liked the treatment thats wat i meant.
05-06-2006
11:36 by lisareynar
we have internal fluval filters , the man at the pet shop said they are rubbish , we are planning on getting something better at the weekend all of our test have been ok , but the marine lab we bought does not have calcium test so i dont know what that is
05-06-2006
11:39 by lisareynar
trik i do think our water is not that good because of the filters, it is strange, but its really just since we put the large rock in .
05-06-2006
11:52 by trik
if its live rock u may get a spike in your water prams you will normally get a nitrite spike if the rock hasnt been cured properly.
05-06-2006
11:55 by lisareynar
how do you sort it out it is live rock , i saw a centerpede type thing on the rock , and there are loads of them feather worms
05-06-2006
12:04 by lisareynar
temp 26 , ammonia 0 ,nitrate no 3 50, nitrate no2 0, ph 8.4 alk normal , salinity 1.025 , theese results were from 2 days ago i need to do the tests again but was waiting for water to settle as we just changed 25 % last night (i dont know copper or dissolved oxygen)
05-06-2006
19:24 by k.o.d
Mandarins are very difficult to look after, they eat copepods from the live rock so they need a lot of rock to graze from.
If it is marine white spot lower levels of salinity are better.
Higher salt levels will stress them more
06-06-2006
11:29 by Alan
Sounds like oodinium this will kill your fish and is difficult to treat in a reef esha oodinex is the only reefsafe remedy I have had success with but my echinoderms hated it. Your best bet would be to move all the fish into a quarantine set up and treat with a non reef safe remedy in quarantine this will kill all inverts all the inverts and corals must remain in the main reef tank and the reef must run fishless for at least 6 weeks I would also during this time look into improving the systems.

At the very least you need a heater live rock to equate to 1 kilo for every 2 gallons pumps to turn the water over at least 20 times an hour and a good skimmer in addition I would look into adding a UV sterilizer this could be run by a small canister filter that could be used for chemical filter media such as rowaphos and carbon.

This would also be a good time to measurte your tanks consumption rate of carbonates calcium magnesium and the like and work out a dosingf regime that will keep these at optimum levels.

Plus get a good book and start reading practical fishkeeping.
07-06-2006
21:47 by elwellj
you should never buy a setup without knowin howto look afterit any pumps to curculate the water?? if so place them pretty near to the live rock as corals/fanworms like it the worms are called Bristleworms they should cause no harm
08-06-2006
08:41 by Alan
Also can you confirm your nitrate level and nitrite level as above you say nitrate 50 then nitrate 0.
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