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16-06-2006 13:17 by Lexter
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anyone had any experience of Kribs breeding in a group?
had to take my kribs out of Rio 180 community, getting too aggressive with other fish.
am gonna have about 10-12 Kribs in a 36x18x12 and wondering if my breeding pairs will still likely breed and if so, what experiences do peeps have with raising krib fry in a krib only tank?
Also i have had my first experience of male Kribs (dive bombing) a small fish, which i understand they are famous for (cant remember who, but someone on here told me about it a few months ago)
The male Krib will chase a community fish around the tank, exhaust it, bully it into bottom corner of tank, then speed of to top of tank and "dive bomb" the other fish, headbutting into corner of tank, will do this several times until guppy / platy / mollie has been killed, then will just leave the carcass there.
Reminds of them German WWII planes, forget the name's, the ones that just dive straight down, fire off their bombs just before they get to ground level and then turn back, anyone rememebr their name (stukar bombers or something?)
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16-06-2006 16:40 by Big Rob
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it was fockers |
16-06-2006 18:08 by Danny Boy
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ive bred these in the same size tank and in a similar size group. the key is a lot of hiding places and pots etc. the more the better. but even then only one pair would breed at a time. all fry were safe too. i adore kribs one great tank mate is neons. they wont attack them and the neons will give the kribs a sense of security and you'll notice that the kribs wont hide when you approach the tank. |
16-06-2006 18:10 by Lexter
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thanks danny, i too an in love with Kribensis, such a great all round fish for many reasons, actually i might just give the neon idea a try or a similar fish, didnt think of that, i notice in my 2 footer with just a pair of kribs they are much more skittish and scard than the kribs were that were in the community tank |
19-06-2006 18:09 by Lexter
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I have put my young Brichardi in with the Kribs, i know, i know, different groups of fish etc etc
But the Brichardi are only 1cm and so far its worked great, all fish getting on well. They are the only fish i had available to share with Kribs and i really liked Danny Boys idea about the neons, but i am not buying anymore fish from LFS unless i have to.
I know what you mean about Kribs on their own, in my experience much more jumpy, so far after 48 hours the Kribs are quite relaxed and swimming out in the open more than i would expect. The Brichardi Fry are always on the move and are not bothered by the Kribs even though some of the Kribs are 7 or 8 times their size.
Obviously my only problem in the long run is when the Brichardi's reach sexual maturity and try to breed in the same tank, but am happy to run that risk right now, as had to move Brichardi Fry anyway, and cant be bothered to set up another tank, this was the only one they could go in.
The set up is 36x18x12, sand, LOTS of bog wood and terracota pots, running with a Fluval 4+ internal.
Two more reasons why i did this (apart from the above)
1. I reckon with the Kribs being so young, they will grow up respectful of the Kribs, i do believe it can make a difference SOMETIMES to a fish's natural mentality on how it grows up and what tank mates it has from an early age (altho you obviously cant rely on this and it doesnt work for convicts lol)
2. Brichardi (in my exeperience) are not natural predators on other fish's fry. I spilt a load of young guppies into my Brichardi set up, they lasted for a few days and it was only the Brichardi adults that eventually picked them off when they noticed some of their children were live-bearer orientated!!! I am hoping my Kribs will continue to breed and raise the young in this tank.
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20-06-2006 17:51 by Lexter
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any comments on my unconventional set up (above)??? |
22-06-2006 23:15 by james1984
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Iv bred kribs a few times and to be honest only had limited success. I had a pair that bred in a 24inch tank and happily lived with the fry in it for a month. Unforunately the male died soon after. I transferred the remaining female and 60+ plus fry into a triagon 350 aquarium and let them grow. I found that they were not as aggressive as i thought they would be as they grew, i had the group for a good few years, tho obviously the numbers dwindled down. At one point i had about 3 pairs, the first pair formed after about a year, the biggest male paired with his mum. They manged to look after their first spawning and id say about 20 fry survived even tho the tank contained a few angels and a 6 inch orange finned loach that has over time developed a taste for fry. Eventually this dominant male destroyed all the other male competition. He then constanly swapped partners, but never raised any fry again. Whenever he chose a female to spawn with as soon as that female was in her cave protecting the spawn other females would court him as he gaurded the cave. At first he would ignore the advances but after time he would be wore down! This new female would then become more outgoing and most of the time take over as dominant female and eat the other females eggs, if the previous female hadnt already done so. Now 5 years later i still have the dominant male bur sadly the last female died a few months ago, when i only had a pair left they seemed relunctant to spawn, the female displayed etc but they never laid eggs. It was interesting to see them behave in groups, sub dominant fish only showed limited aggression between each other most of the time being peaceful. Even the dominat fish were not too aggressive when they were not spawning. The dominant females all chose different caves throughout the tank and whenever the male came by they would display to him. I must admit i dont think they are as easy as people think, i have had much more success with angels/convicts. If you can travel to manchester your welcome to have the male tho he is large and rather old-ish! |
22-06-2006 23:17 by james1984
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Iv bred kribs a few times and to be honest only had limited success. I had a pair that bred in a 24inch tank and happily lived with the fry in it for a month. Unforunately the male died soon after. I transferred the remaining female and 60+ plus fry into a trigon 350 aquarium and let them grow. I found that they were not as aggressive as i thought they would be as they grew, i had the group for a good few years, tho obviously the numbers dwindled down. At one point i had about 3 pairs, the first pair formed after about a year, the biggest male paired with his mum. They manged to look after their first spawning and id say about 20 fry survived even tho the tank contained a few angels and a 6 inch orange finned loach that has over time developed a taste for fry. Eventually this dominant male destroyed all the other male competition. He then constanly swapped partners, but never raised any fry again. Whenever he chose a female to spawn with as soon as that female was in her cave protecting the spawn other females would court him as he gaurded the cave. At first he would ignore the advances but after time he would be wore down! This new female would then become more outgoing and most of the time take over as dominant female and eat the other females eggs, if the previous female hadnt already done so. Now 5 years later i still have the dominant male bur sadly the last female died a few months ago, when i only had a pair left they seemed relunctant to spawn, the female displayed etc but they never laid eggs. It was interesting to see them behave in groups, sub dominant fish only showed limited aggression between each other most of the time being peaceful. Even the dominat fish were not too aggressive when they were not spawning. The dominant females all chose different caves throughout the tank and whenever the male came by they would display to him. I must admit i dont think they are as easy as people think, i have had much more success with angels/convicts. If you can travel to manchester your welcome to have the male tho he is large and rather old-ish! |
23-06-2006 12:37 by Lexter
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thank for this James, i am keeping my fingers crossed. Kribensis are taking over from convcits now as my favourite fish i think. You dont post much on here do? would be good to stay in touch, if you come back on, post me your email address please, thanks |
24-06-2006 11:04 by chromis123
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hi lex ive bred them in a 2foot and 1 fry survived there ace once there adult as they know about what time you feed them and they wait for food theyu will hide alot when spawning and one day fry will just appear oneday
Good Luck,
Chromis 123 |
24-06-2006 15:55 by james1984
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my email is jamesduddridge84@hotmail.com. Only recently started using this website, about a month or so. Kribs are quite interesting and i do like them, just dont think they are as easy as everyone thinks when kept in a community. Think my favourite has got to be angels. |
29-06-2006 19:31 by james1984
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Here is the lil rascal!
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29-06-2006 19:31 by Lexter
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he looks great i love Kribs, shame you so far!!! |
29-06-2006 19:34 by james1984
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Ah well. He is having a ball at the moment, bullying my convicts! |
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