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| Posted | blown up belly of my goldfish |
| 24-06-2005 17:49 by Bill jarman |
my golf fish in my pond about three years ago developed a big belly for which i thought was normal but now she is like a ballone all most no tail now can any one help ? all the other fish are all ok thanks bill. |
| 25-06-2005 08:12 by Fishy man |
Sounds like the nicest thing to do would be to just end it life kindly. Sorry  |
| 26-06-2005 18:31 by BILL JARMAN |
THANKS FOR YOUR REPLY BUT AS LONG AS ITS EATING AND SWIMING I CANT END ITS LIFE ITS NOT MY JOB thanks again
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| 28-06-2005 03:14 by Alan |
Two possibilities spring to mind one of which is a tumor, this is normally easy to identify the lump will be hard and the fish will not be symetrical in appearance from above these tend to just get in the way of the fish and don't seem to do much else, they can sometimes be removed if you can find a willing vet.
The other possibility and probably the more likely would be dropsy and the bulge you are seeing is the retention of fluid. This fluid will be full of bacteria and if the fish dies as it will in all likelyhood it must be removed immediately as this bacteria will quickly escape the fish after death. The fish will almost appear to burst with the accumulated fluid this does happen after death though not while the fish is alive. Another thing to look for with dropsy are protruding scales and sometimes pop eyes. The protruding scales are more often seen as they are a direct result of the over sized body the fish has the appearence of a pine cone. There are some off the shelf treatments you can try but they are normally only effective in the very early stages. I owned a goldfish myself that had dropsy it is possible to drain off the excess fluid but it is not easy and I would not recommend it. I carried this procedure out on my fish about 8 times. On each occasion I removed about half a tumbler full of fluid. This is not a cure but it does make life easier for the fish unfortunately at the time there were no commercially available dropsy treatments but I suspect a combination of the draining of fluid and off the shelf treatments can be very effective. If you intend to go down the lines of draining the fluid seek veterinary guidance I used a good book a very old axelrod book but this procedure is not for the faint hearted it is difficult and extremely risky and you need a very steady hand. ERqually there is the difficulty in handling the fluid that you drain when I drained the fluid I put it in a tumbler containing about a cms depth of bleach, the smell is revolting when mixed with bleach. The fluid has the appearance of urine there should be absolutely no blood in it, if there is I would suspect you have gone wrong and should stop immediately and abandon the attempt and hopefully the fish will recover. I made an error on the 8th attempt with my fish and it sadly died fortunately it died quickly. |
| 29-06-2005 12:20 by rob |
if it was dropsy the fish would be dead by now |
| 01-07-2005 08:27 by Alan |
Rob I would disagree the fish I spoke about suffered from dropsy for 7 years, it is a long standing condition and does not always progress quickly certainly not in goldfish and certainly not in a pond as the cooler temperatures inhibit the rate the condition worsens.
I would agree that if this were a tropical fish dropsy would be unlikely as a tropical fish would deteriorate far more quickly as the temperature aids reproduction of the bacteria. |
| 01-07-2005 17:11 by rob |
wel if you had a fish that lived that long it would not have been dropsy in the first place
more likely to have have been a bacterial infection or damage to internal organs as dropsy will kill very quickly even in colder water normally the fish wont live more than a month and it isnt worth the risk of it dieing in the pond/tank as this is how it is spread to others by them eating the infected upon death |
| 03-07-2005 14:51 by leanne |
HELP PLEASE HELP SOMEONE!!!! I HAVE A FISH WHO HAS LUMPS ON HIS BODY AND IS NOT EATING. AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE OTHER FISH ARE GETTING LIKE THAT HELP!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04-07-2005 06:24 by Alan |
Dropsy can vary in severity greatly I to have had fish deteriorate very quickly from dropsy but all dropsy is is a build up of bacteria filled fluid in the stomach and body cavity any number of combinations of bacteria can lead to it although there are specifics that will always be present so to say it always kills quickly is a great over simplification of the disease. A lot also depends on the trigger for the disease in most cases there are water quality problems or the fish is under a lot of stress but in those cases where neither are apparent I have found the condition to be long standing and it doesn't seem to bother the fish to much until they are huge.
I believe Henry the eight had dropsy for quite some time to but obviously it effects mammals differently but the build up of huge quantities of fluid is still there hence Henry the eigths large girth. Leanne can you describe the nodules/lumps there are a number of possibilities we need to know size and colour as well as what fish are infected and what fish are present in the tank. Plus what symptoms are the fish showing i.e. rapid breathing lethargy gasping at the surface etc. |
| 04-07-2005 15:14 by rob |
henry the 8th had gout i belive |
| 05-07-2005 07:48 by Alan |
Gout is often a side effect of dropsy in people. |
| 27-08-2005 18:13 by Andrew Hon |
Hi there, I am fairly new to having fish. Most websites I have read say dropsy does kill the fish within a month. My lionhead goldfish (bendy) has got dropsy. Bendy first sat on the bottom of the tank for about 3 days, and I knew it was not normal, so I put esha 2000 which is mean't to tackle a range of diseases. I found that the scales did come down but then after a while they came up again. I then tried Interpets Internal NO9 ANTI - INTERNAL BACTERIA, bendy still has a little bit of protruding scales. I really do not know what else to do, he has been like that for about a month now. The pupil of the eye is slightly sticking out or bulging as well. I recently brought a heater to keep the temperature steady. Is there anything i can do to help him get better. He has no loss of apetite and swims well. |
| 10-05-2006 00:46 by robin |
My fantail, Freddie came down with dropsy 6 weeks ago and in that period I have read almost every book and internet site associated with this disease as wel as talk to a vet I know and various aquarium specialists and not only did it allow me to set what I believe to be a sound (yet not outragious) treatment I also realized depending on what you read or talk to there are a galaxy of opinions out there.
From the disease being almost always fatal no matter what to being treatable if caught on time to a gamet of various treatments everyone with some to alot of expierience have a different angle. I set up a hospital tank with elevated water temp (80-84), do a very small water change daily (aprox. 10%) with a very mild solution of epsom salts once every 2nd day (1/8 tsp. per 5 gal.) I also utilized some anti-biotics to the food (tetracycline) and though this sounds goofy as Fred love attention I sit on a stool by the tank and just keep him company for a few hrs. a day. (Though I think that has helped me more than anything!!) He started deflating 1 week ago and is now almost his proper size again with no more protruding scales. He never did have anything else wrong with him and has been active and feeding since this all began. This may just be a remission but we are hopeful. I hope everyone luck with the treatment of their little friends!! |
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