Home Adverts Recent Added Auction Scam Alerts Fishkeeping Forum List Your Ad ShopAds Videos Tropical Fish Aquariums & Equip Marine Fish & Marine Inverts Cichlids Malawi Tanganyikan Cichlids Wanted Discus Goldfish, Koi & Ponds Retailers & Services ALL ADS By County    Home      Reply     Viewed: 699 -- Replies: 26 PM | All Topics | General | Cichlids | Marine | Coldwater | Tanks/Equipment | Diseases | Members Posted suffering fish 20-08-2006 22:30 by KOBISKYE i am curious to know how people put fish down, i go to my lfs once a week and if he has any i get them for my aro, i.e goldfish, please can people answer the question only ,, and not make it personal 20-08-2006 22:39 by Lexter i got three methods i use Kobiskye 1. Clove Oil / Vodka mix, needs to be the right mix, if u ever want to know more how i did it let me know. A well accepted way to end a fish's life 2. Smash fish on hard surface, i wouldnt do this with a fish bigger than say 3" 3. Ice cold water, did this recently with some very dodgy LFS live bearers, i got the water as cold as possible, half it was mashed up ice by the time i finished, it doesnt need much water as the fish wont be swimming in it anyway, it was about 60% ice and 40% water in a saucepan, all the fish had stopped moving and breathing within 3 seconds of being added, i would say 1-3 seconds really the one thing i aware of and would be careful about with bagging a big fish and slamming it would be that you really need the fish's HEAD to take the full blow i wouldnt wanna smash it and miss its head 20-08-2006 22:44 by telboy i smash em full pelt against the floor or brick wall,but kob not a good idea to feed sick fish to ya arrow incase its contagious mate but each to their own eh? 20-08-2006 22:47 by wayne thats what they eat in the wild , sick, injured and old fish , i dont mind peeps who feed ill fish as they are doomed anyway but feeding perfectly healthy goldfish , with could possibly have a long life expectancy , thats cruel 20-08-2006 22:48 by KOBISKYE well aware tel i dont feed it diseased fish 20-08-2006 22:55 by wayne you said quote:i am curious to know how people put fish down, i go to my lfs once a week and if he has any i get them for my aro, i.e goldfish what do you mean by this, it sounds like your saying you get suffering goldfish ,if theyre not ill why are they suffering? 20-08-2006 23:00 by telboy i agree with ya wayne in the wild they would snack on these sick fish,but then again the ones in the wild didnt cost £100 down ya lfs 20-08-2006 23:45 by KOBISKYE like an eye missing, burns from heaters, my lfs uses a slighly heated tank for goldfish, deformed(twisted spines) swimbladder gone, i soppose all fish in your local pet shop arrive perfect, but a £100 fir a goldfish? ,starting to realise you guys just like to cause arguments, 20-08-2006 23:58 by KOBISKYE found this on feeder fish through google Feeder fish From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search Please wikify (format) this article or section as suggested in the Guide to layout and the Manual of Style. Remove this template after wikifying. This article has been tagged since May 2006. Feeder fish is the generic name for certain types of inexpensive fish commonly fed as live prey to captive animals. Feeder fish are generally bought according to their size, and since they are raised in a filtrated environment, are sometimes seen as a 'cleaner' live foodstuff. Feeder fish may include: so-called 'non-fancy' Guppies minnows (also known as Rosie Reds) Small comet goldfish Some pet stores sell feeder fish in bulk, and since they are intended to be eaten quickly, they often have no guarantee of hardiness. While some animals will readily take them as food, some owners avoid feeder fish due to a high risk of bacterial infection associated with the common practice of raising these fish in crowded conditions. Others feel feeder fish, especially the hard internal structure of goldfish, represent an unnatural diet for certain animals and may lead to nutritional imbalances. Many novice customers buy such fish for their first tanks due to their low price, who are then dissuaded when they do not survive; many pet stores do not often guarantees or refunds on feeders for this reason. However, goldfish that do survive often grow out of a standard home aquarium fairly quickly. Feeder fish are usually some of the easiest fish to keep for the beginning aquaculturist. The characteristics that make a fish the target of mass breeding (easy of housing, ease of breeding, ease of feeding, tolerance of crowded conditions, tolerance for temperature changes) also makes them an excellent fish for a less than experienced owner to take care of. Rosy red minnows, for example, will survive the changes in temperature that occur in a small tank, the kinds of changes that would kill more sensitive marine fish. It has been reported that some feeder fish that are kept as pets will grow up to seven inches and live for an extended period of time [up to ten years]. Many keepers of large, predatory fish choose to feed live fish (most commonly: baby goldfish [comets and commons], guppies or minnows) periodically. In some cases, the predator in question will not accept non-living foods, but more often, the aquarist considers live feeders a special treat, or enjoys watching the natural hunting and eating techniques. 21-08-2006 00:08 by telboy kobiskye ya got me wrong mate wasnt saying the goldfish cost £100 blimey id want a big ol fish for that !meant the arro 21-08-2006 00:11 by telboy and no we dont like starting arguments mate its a forum you ask for folks views you get em if ya dont wanna hear what folk think then dont ask for their opinions! 21-08-2006 08:29 by KOBISKYE 21-08-2006 21:43 by Penny1 put them in boiling water 21-08-2006 22:36 by von Boiling water! no no no no..... are you mad! imagine the pain. Don't try that at home folks 21-08-2006 22:37 by Lexter what is this boiling water thing about!!! 21-08-2006 22:41 by KOBISKYE to be honest folks i have never had to put a fish down, ever 21-08-2006 22:42 by Lexter you will one day 21-08-2006 22:44 by von Don't tempt fate, quick, touch some wood. 21-08-2006 22:45 by rob r why does this thread keep coming back when even the feeble minded know to hit them hard onto a hard surface 21-08-2006 22:45 by Lexter dont worry i was touching wood when i typed the comment Von, thats not be to be overly negative, i just think its worth knowing the best way how to, and lighting up the kitchen stove isnt necessarily one of them 21-08-2006 22:46 by Lexter not everyone knows it Rob 21-08-2006 22:47 by rob r the amount of times its been on im surprised 21-08-2006 22:49 by Lexter 21-08-2006 by Penny1 put them in boiling water well there you go Rob, the old boiling water technique 21-08-2006 22:56 by rob r sheer cruelty 21-08-2006 22:59 by KOBISKYE theres that word again cruelty 21-08-2006 23:03 by Lexter well its hard to argue that Kobiskye, i mean there "debatable, matter of opinion cruelty" and then there's boiling fish alive!!! 21-08-2006 23:07 by KOBISKYE fed up with this debate now far too opinionated, bottom line look after your fish, and hopefully they will only die of old age, im of to watch footie highlights NEW REPLIES ARE NOW CLOSED ON THIS FORUM We invite you to join the NEW Aquarist Classifieds Fishkeeping Forum HERE Your contributions to this forum are greatly appreciated. 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