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Posted	Best Filter ? External ?
06-09-2006 01:20 by Rob_Ren	Hi, i am fairley new to this game having purchased a Fish'R'Fun tank of about 27lt about 5 months ago, soon realising the error of my ways in wasting hard earned money on such a small tank, lovely though it is. I am now looking to upgrade to a more sensible size tank probably around 200lt, the one i currently have my eye on is 4' long and 218lt I fancy getting an external filter and inline heater as I don't wan't to waste valueable tank space and i think that it looks unsightly. My problem is i don't know my fluval from my ehiem, i have heard different pro's and con's for both and would like some advice. 1. My main concern is the noise, if it's not almost silent my wife will kill me as it will be going in the living room. 2. I need to make my pennys go a long way so initial cost and running costs will matter along with spares availability. 3. Ease of use, cleaning etc.. some of the unknown external filters i have seen do not use trays for the different media so i can see them being a nightmare to clean. I have been looking at the fluval 405 as it doesn't seem much dearer than the smaller versions and i would like to cater for future changes (can they be turned down or will the waterflow be ok in the tank i mentioned) I have read that there have been problems with the earlier models but can't find any unbiast reviews for the 05 series. Also what inline heater would be recomended. All advice will be much appreciated.
06-09-2006 01:30 by daves	EHEIM don't buy anything else,these are reliable ,dependable and you can always get parts for them,but i'm speaking as a first timer and after researching externals i couldn't buy anything else but an EHEIM,after paying out a little bit extra,that extra difference in price should mean you will have a trouble free filter....
06-09-2006 01:40 by Rob_Ren	Which eheim? there seem to be loads of different ones. I have also just seen some info on a tetratec ex1200 that looks good to a newby but it was the manufacturers advert so will be a tad biast. Check the link out. http://www.rocketrading.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=328
06-09-2006 01:41 by daves	mine has trays,and a heater built in,so there is only one pipe in and one pipe out.Since i put mine in,i haven't touched it and don't plan to for a while,unless my spraybar slows down a lot,then i will look into it!
06-09-2006 01:54 by Rob_Ren	Could you tell me which model it is and your tank size. The built in heater covers the other part of my question and would keep things a lot neater which will also save lots of earache from my wife.
06-09-2006 08:15 by heros hero	Rob, those tetratec are brilliant for the money. Had an eheim wet and dry and it was nothing but a pain in the butt.
06-09-2006 08:16 by yanton	fluval fx5 external filter - superb!
06-09-2006 10:29 by pennie	i have a 405 on my 6ft tank and it is also in the lounge and i cannot hear it at all i like fluvals but i also have a eheim 2213 on another tank and i dont think it is as good as the fulval it deffnatley dosent keep the water clear like my 405 dose it is quite and that was on a 4ft tank there are also no trays in it ither which dose make it a *** to clean the 405 dose have a leaver to adjust the water flow dont know about the other eheims they might you would haveto ask when you get one and i am not sure about the heater i was going to put an exturnal heater on mine but decided not to
06-09-2006 11:26 by keith t	Rena xp3 is one of the easiest, quietest, and reliable filters around in my opinion. Very easy to live with. You can control the flow rate on the output tap and it has 3 trays inside for your media.
06-09-2006 14:04 by wymcot	FX 5 is a bit OTT for a 4' tank
06-09-2006 20:05 by robert.pope	one thing i wonder about is if the intergrated heater goes wrong .......your then left without a filter ! i went for seperates .........i have the option i can replace a £10-20 heater without any problems i have old eheim and a more modern fluval........both good and do the same job ......the fluval is the 304 on a 150litre tank....very easy to take away and clean !!!! NO ONE HAS ASKED WHAT FISH YOUR KEEPING!!! Weather its going to be planted etc planted tanks dont like loads of filtering ......where as a tank with big fish will need much greater filtering Rob ............everyone has their opinion's ..... i think all modern filters bu well known makes are going to be great....... ifound my filters only noisy when i placed them in the cupboard below the tank.........solved this with a piece of carpet in the cupboad for filter to sit on! Rob Go with what you fancy
06-09-2006 20:07 by robert.pope	by not bu in last posting ........sory
06-09-2006 21:08 by danny.c	pro3 get my vote
06-09-2006 21:16 by Rob_Ren	After some initial response to this post i had a look at the eheim filters and found an all singing all dancing unit, eheim 2327 thinking if i am spending such a lot of money i may as well try and make myself future proof for that little extra. But when i went to a lfs i was told that they have had problems with all the eheim wet and dry filters they have sold leaking ? can anyone on here coment on this fact one way or another to help me make the correct decission.
07-09-2006 13:08 by TARTINJOCK	I have heard that Wet and Dry Filters can be a pain to set up, I am using a PRO 2 2028 on a 240 ltr tank, with malawi fish so it is fairly populated with fish, I have no problems whatsoever, not touched it in 3 months, prior to that I had Oscars which are extremely messy fish, again no problems.
07-09-2006 15:56 by vu1974	i have a thermo wet and dry eheim filter for 2 years. it abit more noisy because of the wet/dry bit i.e filling and draining. mine is in the lounge so it doesn't matter. the main pain is that there is a third tube, the breather tube, this may trap air now and again and makes a sucking noise.to resolve this you have to make sure the tube is vertical all the time. the upside is that the wet/dry filter is apparently something like 70% more effecient. i have never had any leaking problems or any other problems with eheims whatsoever and they last for ever and ever... eheim gets my vote, but the its up to dude.
08-09-2006 12:14 by Alan	Eheim classic canister filter is ideal bottom fill design means no air locks plus it is virtually silent and they are extremely reliable. As they are a basic filter they are very cheap to. Only difficulty is the heater I would get a cover for it and then hide it behind the tank decor that will keep it from view.

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