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Posted	ex discus setup
06-09-2006 11:21 by JOHANSWAN	this is my discus setup i had before my tank sides gave way and to be honest ive had them from 1 and half inch long and fed them cichlid flakes in morning and beefheart frozen at night and they had to compete for food.mu ph was kept at 6.5 and done a weekly 10% waterchange r/o water.the discus is in my lads tank now and they are not as diffycult to keep ,it is us making it diffycult and at the end the fish is the one that suffers.so lets keep the hobby for what it is to conserve the fish and for our enjoyment
06-09-2006 11:26 by JOHANSWAN	some photos
06-09-2006 11:28 by JOHANSWAN	sorry wrong photo
06-09-2006 11:29 by JOHANSWAN	battle to place more than one photo at at time
06-09-2006 11:42 by wymcot	That was a beautifully planted tank, exactly the type of thing I'm planning for me 6 footer
06-09-2006 12:45 by JOHANSWAN	the reason for posting this topic is to change the mood off squibbling like children and make people aware we cant force our will on people sometimes it will cost a person alot off grief and money before we will follow advice only due to being hardheaded ask me i learnt the hard way but lets try to keep this forum for the imterest off the hobby after all thats what the forum is all about the fish and not to proof ourselves:
06-09-2006 13:02 by Malawimad	Johanswan very very nice tank, I bet that didn't come overnight either, just introducing plants now amazons etc, But looks very nice mate, top job!
06-09-2006 13:26 by JOHANSWAN	it took me 2 years and a lot off experimenting to get it that way and it broke my heart when the tank sides gave in but we kept the discus and angels.thanks for comment can i give youone tip please dont feed your discus beefheart from the butcher it is a big mistake and frozen packs off beefheart is cheap enough the fresh beefheart can contain parasites while laying at the buthers and if you miss to cut out one sinew out off the heart and the discus gets it he is a gonner as it cannot digest sinews besides the discus breeders only feed their discus continouisly so they can get shot off them quicker i fed my discus from small in the morning and at night take longer to grow up but at least nature allowed it to grow big in its own time best off luck johan
06-09-2006 13:48 by Malawimad	Any advice is appreciated if put to me the right way Johan, you just have to remember that peeps learn from there mistakes, i will get there but it comes with terrotary, to get good at something you have to learn the hard way... But will take your advice on bored as well as other peeps info, I was told BH four times daily, but after conversations yest i learnt more and from that info i will implement it, But if i do have any issues with the tank Johan i will post a thread for your attention because it looks to me you know what ya doing when it comes to discuss! Thanks Johan, I will suceed, But well done again, excellent tank mate!
06-09-2006 14:03 by wymcot	Did you use CO2 to get plant growth like that?
06-09-2006 14:40 by JOHANSWAN	i used the homebrew kit wich i made up evry week to get the best performance half t/s bicarb,half t/s dry yeast and a cup off sugar with half liter warm water and a weekly growth supplement after my water change hope it helps
06-09-2006 14:41 by JOHANSWAN	i used the homebrew kit wich i made up evry week to get the best performance half t/s bicarb,half t/s dry yeast and a cup off sugar with half liter warm water and a weekly growth supplement after my water change hope it helps
06-09-2006 14:43 by JOHANSWAN	i used to trim my plants and cut to shape the way i want it at a fortnightly basis wich i found promoted the growth quite a lot
06-09-2006 14:59 by Malawimad	Johanswan, How big is the tank mate? And how many dicuss and other fish did ya have in there?
06-09-2006 15:05 by JOHANSWAN	it was i juwel rio300 with 4 discus a breeding pair off angels lot off corydoras about 8 ,3thomasi cichlids and about 6 oddballs but small and peacefull.the tank took 300 liters off water.i had 2 silver dollars but cuased too much havoc with my plants so i removed them also had a pair off rams that bred on a few occasions but my water was very soft and i used to run it through peat to keep ph low
06-09-2006 15:07 by JOHANSWAN	sorry mistake it was 5 discus and two off them paired off in my lads tank where we transferred the plants to
06-09-2006 15:10 by wymcot	If I can get my 6 footer looking like that I'll be well chuffed. Going to use cylinder CO2 courtesy of my local landlord, recon a years supply out of a cylinder for £13
06-09-2006 15:41 by Malawimad	It doesn't look that big though Johan on the face of it, I think a max of 3 discuss in my tank once there fully grown... I have a rio125
06-09-2006 16:22 by JOHANSWAN	it is fine to have the 3 discus for now but once they achieved maturity and pair off you willhave to remove the odd one toprevent it from being bullied cuase due to maturity and the right conditions you should be successfull in breeding them thist make sure you have very soft aciditic water and try to keep ppm below 30 ive bought a tds meter and use to measure my tankwater with it and below 30ppm is good enough for the fish, but our tapwater in the northwest measured 120ppm and there very diffycult to get down unless you chase your water through a denitrator thats how i cheated sometimes as i have a indistrual di unit and once my water ppm go over 70ppm i chased it through the di unit slowly for 24 hours or until my ppm reach about 12 altough the plants helped a lot with nitrates and i also left my backglass off my tank to acculate algea once it mature it look like a green background and it prevent a algea explosion around my plants
06-09-2006 16:31 by wymcot	JOHANSWAN - wherabouts in the NW, I live in Cheshire. Assume when talking ppm at those levels your talking hardness and not nitrates
06-09-2006 17:28 by JOHANSWAN	hi wymcot i live in morecambe and it is nitrates as the tds meter give you parts per million reading wich will refer to nitrates.your fish is ok with nitratesit is nitrites that kill them off nitrates is the one that promotes hair algea so easily for you can take the phosfate out off you water but if your nitrates read over 100ppm you will still battle with hair algea altough not as severe but take a tds meter and read your tap water and you might just might be shocked altough i did have readings off 90ppm
06-09-2006 17:36 by wymcot	With Nitrtae levels that high I would be very suspicious as the legal limit I'm pretty sure is 50 ppm. I've never heard of a TDS meter being used to measure nitrates as surely they are designed to measure disolved solids and not chemicals ?
06-09-2006 17:40 by wymcot	Sorry, should have described disolved solids as being Calcium, Sulphates, Chlorides
06-09-2006 17:58 by wymcot	You've got me thinking now so I've done a bit of research Totally Dissolved Solids are made up predominantly from the following Calcium Bicarbonate Magnesium Chloride Sodium Sulfate Iron Nitrate Manganese Carbonate So on that basis a TDS meter will not read direct nitrate levels but the reading can be calculated into degrees of hardness. With the readings you have indicated above 120ppm in your tap water = 4 - 8.5 degrees of hardness If you keep your levels below 30 ppm this equates to 0 - 4 dgrees of hardness, which as you say is ideal for Discus So on this basis, unless you are testing nitrate levels by another method, your TDS meter is not measuring them
06-09-2006 17:59 by JOHANSWAN	as far as i know the tds give you reading off solids in water if your r/o is working correctly you will have a zero reading altough i will not debate over it it is just with a freshwater setup i found a tds meter give you the best indication off waterquality and the pollution off water and ive run my tanks (had 4 at one stage)always according to my tds readings and it always corresponded with my tests on my testkits but i will not bet on it maybe somebody can give as a better explantion off the measurements a tds meter take.with a tds reading below 10 my nh3 testkit always read in the clear and as tds goes up the tests i took also got worse
06-09-2006 18:02 by JOHANSWAN	thanks for explanation wymcot i did hear or read that before as well so that will explain why my fish thrived in their water altough skip a weekly waterchange and you could detect it straight away cheers
06-09-2006 18:09 by wymcot	That explains it a bit more. If your running an RO unit it will reduce nitrate and hardness levels. With regular weekly water changes you are not going to have a problem with nitrtares unles somethong else goes wrong like a filter etc I just got a biot confused over the nitrate levels you mentioned as they coulnt have been correct, especially straight out of the tap Lesson learned, I will need an RO unit for my tank when I set it up.
06-09-2006 18:41 by JOHANSWAN	if you get a proper d.i.catridge it works just as well as a r/o unit as i have both and the tds reading on my r/o is 11ppm and my d/i unit is 7ppm so what i do now is chase my water throught a sediment filter of 10 microns than a carbon,through the r/o and then through my d.i catridge and the ppm readin is 3 but now i only have a marine tank and my filtration unit was nor new and came from a laboratory as used but it do for me.miss my tropical setup but with juwel not want to know anything about their tank failure i geuss i will only stick with marines for now at least be fortunate being in the u.k i can do it as i south-africa it cost a fortune for fish hobby and marines is out of reach for the poor only for the rich over there but i am in the hobby for about 38 years now and still learn all the time

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