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Posted	insulating a fish house
25-09-2006 22:52 by zzrpassion	Help! i need some info on how to best insulate my 10x10 wooden shed as a fish house. i have 25mm polysterene and some glass wool. do i need to leave an airspace befoe insulating? should i have a dpm? my wall depth 75mm finished with hardboard? help pleaz frustrated now. thanks
26-09-2006 07:32 by lisa uk	hi, we have just finished our 8x8 shed, & insulated it with 2" polysyrene from wickes , then finished it off with hardboard & insulated the ceiling with poly ceiling tiles, thats it!it holds the temp very well & is very stable. we have heated it with an oil filled radiator, not individual tank heaters which would cost a fortune to run! the temp in the room is 28.5c & the temp in the tanks is: bottom row 24c, middle row is 25.5c & top row is 26.5c. we are then running home made gravel filters ( little tubs filled with coral gravel, with an airstone & holes in the lids, great for kicking the ph up too!) which are so much cheaper to run, they run off a large 250 lph 20 outlet pump. all we have running in there is the heater, pump & a tube light when we need it! we have 11 x 2' tanks for fry & 4 x 3' tanks for breeding. i will post some photos later to give you some ideas.
26-09-2006 08:15 by zzrpassion	thanks lisa. did u leave an air space between the shed wall and the polystyrene? i have a high blow that drives 42 airstones plan to use a combination of undergravel and box filters. i have 13 tanks in the house .. still not enough. mad eh!
26-09-2006 09:15 by lisa uk	lol. no we didn't leave a space between, but we did leave a small 3" x 3" gap near the roof for ventilation that we can cover if need be, as we were concerned about condensation over the winter, but i was told that as long as you have good condensation covers fitted it shouldn't be a problem! we had 10 tanks in the house, but have managed to cut it down to 6 now we have the fish house. yes we are mad lol! how many tanks are you going to have in the shed? & what are you keeping/ breeding? we have loads of malawis & tropheus breeding & babies in ours.
26-09-2006 11:17 by Danny Boy	this forum is quickly becoming the place for some really serious fish keepers! all great news. ZZR i dont know where you are based but i have sheets and sheets of celotex/kingspan. you can have an 8' x 4' sheet for 15 quid a peice maybe 3 or 4 sheets would be all you need. im at gatwick
26-09-2006 11:49 by wayne	good another fish room , good size as well i think mine is 7-8 ft x 11-12ft x 6-7 ft tall , i found expanding foam was good for those annoying little gaps and under a fiver as well , you ve also got to take into account the summer overheating?
26-09-2006 12:18 by Danny Boy	Reason why so many new fish house owners are coming here? we come out at number 2 on google for 'insulating fish house' makes sense really
26-09-2006 13:57 by zzrpassion	dannyboy thanks but im in aberdeenshire ,scotland .thanks for your info this whole thing has been driving me mad.i had lined it with both 25mm poly and glass wool. then some guy said oh u have to leave an air space and no glass wool.so all the hardboard came off and glass wool out poly moved then hardboard replaced ,then i was told you need a dpm. im sick of taking it to bits.I JUST WANT MY FISH HOUSE! so im doing nothing till i get more info from them thats done it.by the way the temp in the room without heating was 65dg. that was with glass wool. ta x
26-09-2006 14:00 by Danny Boy	you dont need to damp proof a shed the timber is already treated. so forget that.. (i used to be a builder) as for the air theres a certain amount of truth in that as the air traps the heat and keeps the area warmer but the wool holds the air and heat even better. so i would have left that in there. really your main concern is that damp wont set in as it will be a damp area. just insulate the room the best you can
26-09-2006 14:01 by Danny Boy	id say judging buy the advice youve already had you met a 'internet guesser'
26-09-2006 14:01 by zzrpassion	lisa , im breeding bristle nose plecks,malawi zebs, peacocks,brichardi, kribs,geo brisili,corilius,lambardi,burtoni mouth brooder and johnni.where u from if u dont mind me askin?
26-09-2006 14:04 by zzrpassion	danny boy, would you suggest a dehumidifier to absorb the moisture in the air. bet your thinking what a stupid woman eh . lol
26-09-2006 14:11 by Danny Boy	well a dehumidifier is gonna work over time as it'll be removing water from the tanks too. lids are definantly essential to save condensation. it couold be an idea to have a dehumidifier on one or two days a week maybe? but id be guessing as i dont have any experience.. and how comes your a lady but have ZZR passion?...
26-09-2006 14:19 by zzrpassion	mm my motor bike is a zzr. thats y i used the name love ma bike u c
26-09-2006 14:23 by Danny Boy	very good carry on.. i have a fireblade...
26-09-2006 14:35 by zzrpassion	u on aol? could chat or msn
26-09-2006 14:41 by zzrpassion	black and silver 600 T reg. U?
26-09-2006 14:59 by lisa uk	i'm from staffordshire, quite a way from you lol! nice to see some more female fish keepers on here too
26-09-2006 15:01 by lisa uk	here are some pics first from the outside, only 8'x8' but enough space for what we need.
26-09-2006 15:02 by lisa uk	next, just been insulated....
26-09-2006 15:03 by lisa uk	then the hardboard......
26-09-2006 15:04 by lisa uk	then the racking for the tanks to sit on, made from 3" x 3" timber...
26-09-2006 15:05 by lisa uk	good solid joints , all made by my hubby
26-09-2006 15:06 by lisa uk	i'll post some of inside later, gotta sort out the usb cable
26-09-2006 15:09 by zzrpassion	hey lisa ta fr pict. did u paint the hardboard with gloss? did you seal the poly together or just wedge them in. my house should hold approx 46 tanks 3,4,and 2 ft tanks. do u have brichardi?
26-09-2006 16:03 by lisa uk	i painted the hardboard with white silk emulsion, took 4 coats lol! they are nailed onto the frame of the shed. that's alot of tanks!! yes i have the normal kind & the daffodil ones which are my favourite! heres some pics of the inside....
26-09-2006 16:04 by lisa uk	more...
26-09-2006 16:05 by lisa uk	here is one of our home made filters...
26-09-2006 16:15 by zzrpassion	ingenius filter, we did the same with clay flowerpots the hole was already there just filled the pot with wool and turned upsidesdown, is ur brichardis breeding? if so have a q.its cool a woman fishkeeper . thats a first fr me
26-09-2006 16:28 by lisa uk	no, i think they are too small yet? what size do they start to breed do you know? flowerpots sound a good idea too
26-09-2006 16:56 by RyanR	Brichardi's in my experience dont grow very quick, but i think they hit maturiy at around 2-3", not 100% but my friends have bred them at that size
26-09-2006 17:17 by lisa uk	mine are about the 2" mark, so should'nt be long now then!
26-09-2006 17:20 by zzrpassion	yip my pair bred at 2' but im having a few probs.all the info i have read states that the young can stay with the parents until 8mth.i have had 3 litters from them but despite what the books say about the oldest young helping look after the new fry. when a new batch hatch and r about 3wks the male goes off and starts chewing the oldest babies and spitting them not killing them but the stress eventually kills them ? anyone else got this prob. i keep moving the young out when it starts again
28-09-2006 21:34 by skip	Hi, you could fit a small exstractor fan at the the top of the apex pluged into a timer to come on every 15 minutes in every hour to help with the humidity, I was lucky when building my fish hut the place where i work are using this
28-09-2006 21:42 by skip	It is used on the houses in Glasgow got all I needed for nothing also added 1"inch of rockwool on top then covered with 4mm Plywood this was then painted used emulsion to seal wood grain then used gloss paint
29-09-2006 11:48 by Phill Austen	I think that a waterproof membrane on the inside of the insulation is essential. without this water vapour will condense behind the insulation and provide ideal conditions for fungal growth. The water will perculate back into the fish house through joints in the insulation bringing fungal spores with it! Trust me, you do not want to be breathing this stuff!
10-10-2006 18:10 by skip	I see you are selling your shed and everthing in it on ebay hope you get a good price, for all your time and effort

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