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Is It Possable To Keep ANGEL'S with sajica and sevrum |
27-09-2006 17:03 by jonie
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hi guys getting rid of 20 of each sajica and sevrum this weekend or next and was wandering if i could put a or 2-3 angels with them? |
27-09-2006 18:43 by mannings
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personally i wouldnt the severums might be ok with the angles but the sajicas will go for the angles long fins. dont think it will work |
27-09-2006 22:12 by marko mourinho
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I keep my angels with a oscar,black shark,loiselleis and other highly aggro fish..but i think ill need to take them out soon..i only put them in their cause they had no were else to go. |
27-09-2006 22:17 by heros hero
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Try it and see what happens, then let us know |
27-09-2006 22:55 by telboy
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jonie where are you?as ive got some angels im gonna thin out + wouldnt mind doing a swop for sevs!
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27-09-2006 23:05 by telboy
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might even take some sajicas off ya |
28-09-2006 08:22 by PaddyD
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I have kept angels and sajica's together ok. If young you should have no problems. If the sajica's start to breed you may well have problems. Severums and angels are ok when young, but not when the severums get bigger. |
28-09-2006 08:59 by Alan
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One thing to consider with severums is that they are normally very peaceful for a cichlid but they are very robust cichlids and when they lose their rag they really lose it and can do some pretty severe damage. Having said that if mixed with angels from very small you may get away with it long term especially if you have a shoal of large tetras in their to distract the heros from the angels. |
28-09-2006 18:53 by jonie
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hi all thanks for the reply woulod this sound ok?
2-4 sajica cichlids
1 male severum
6 congo tetra
and 2 angels? with 4 bristlenose an a small syno |
28-09-2006 18:54 by jonie
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sorry tel im in west mids |
29-09-2006 09:34 by Alan
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still concerned with the sevs and the sajicas being together especially when the sajicas pair off also concerned about the angel fish equally the cichlids alone at adult size would take you over an ideal stocking level for heavy polluters but aside from this no probs.
One thing that does spring to mind Congo's do better in a slightly bigger group than you propose a minimum of 8 is best I have 14 in my tank and they look stunning. |
29-09-2006 11:28 by jonie
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well how many could i actually out in their then 10? |
29-09-2006 12:59 by Alan
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This is what I would do jonie just a suggestion mind you.
Choose between the Heros and the sajicas. Go for either a pair of heros or a pair of sajicas and absolutely no other cichlids or fish of comparable size in there aside from catfish.
Congo tetra wise I would go for a minimum of 8 possibly 10 they will not attain their max size due to the concentration of hormoney/feromones in the tank in effect stunting their growth slightly expect about 2 inches each for these as a max not including the tail. Just as a side note you must remember I said you would have been over stocked for big polluters congos are not big polluters so you can get away with having more.
Catfish wise I have a few favourite synos in particular decorus but I suspect this may be a little big so perhaps angelicus or alternatively you could go for a small shoal of say 3 pim pictus they are very active fish.
I would also put a medium/small plec in their I would go for a royal panaque myself its one of my favourite plecs.
By stocking like this you have no fish in direct competition with the cichlids or with each other they all inhabit different levels and exhibit different behaviour and the only territorial fish is the heros and the syno the syno is only bothered by other cats though and the heros will not bother a syno they are just to tough especially angelicus.
I would scrub the angels idea altogether they are just not tough enough to be housed with medium sized cichlids long term especial robust fish such as heros and sajica. |
30-09-2006 09:02 by jonie
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ok m8 thenks i going wit the seveum,10congo's 3 pictus and my bristenose and a royal? would that be ok?? |
02-10-2006 09:19 by Alan
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bristlenose and royal might scrap a bit plenty of bogwood will be needed to avoid this much more than you currently have and be prepared for the water to go brown you will also need to siphon the shavings of the substrate as the royal can make mince meat of bog wood.
You should be okay with that just to double check what filtration are you using? |
02-10-2006 18:57 by jonie
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im using a tetra tec 1200 and a tetra tec 700 |
03-10-2006 09:33 by Alan
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That should be sufficient they are both external aren't they? |
03-10-2006 20:02 by heros hero
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1900 l/h total. Got to agree with alan. |
03-10-2006 21:23 by darren
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yes alan they are |
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