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| 16-10-2006 16:53 by bluekate |
im thinking of starting up a marine tank,b4 i buy books on it can some1 give me a whole list of stuff that i would need for it to complete a setup cheers
rough prices would be an advantage |
| 16-10-2006 17:08 by bluboy |
try the net i dont know about marines but theirs always loads there |
| 16-10-2006 17:13 by keith t |
or try this forum |
| 16-10-2006 17:32 by mikk |
tank,skimmer,t8,t5 or halide lights,sump(try to avoid cannister filters)r/o unit,buckets for mixing water,reef crystals,live rock several power heads/streams,heater,egg crate,test kits,refractometer,food frozen and seaweed,net,if possible qt tank,thermometer, that all comes to £loads |
| 16-10-2006 17:42 by bluekate |
LOL
cheers for that mikk, (i think) i really am interested but need to find out quite a few bits so any help is very much appreciated |
| 16-10-2006 18:03 by mikk |
what size tank u wanting?
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| 16-10-2006 18:47 by bluekate |
3ft or 4 ft i think |
| 16-10-2006 18:57 by bluboy |
did u go on the wharf aquatic site the size of tank ur afters about 50 quid bargain |
| 16-10-2006 22:00 by mikk |
if you have a tank that size invest in the v2 400 or 600 good skimmer not alot of brass but always by the best u can afford the old addage buy cheap buy twice applies BIG TIME! also you can never over research this hobby you may get conflicting opinions sometimes(most of the time)but you can learn from each view and find the system and upkeep regime which suits/works best for you good luck with the tank and come back soon with a few pics |
| 17-10-2006 18:34 by bluekate |
yeah i looked at wharf but the delivery charge was gonna be over £120, mikk thanks for the help if i need more i know you can help do you know of some good marine website for equipment please |
| 17-10-2006 18:44 by bluekate |
another thing this may sound stupid but what is the egg crate for ??? |
| 17-10-2006 21:17 by mikk |
to put l/r on so its not sat directly on the glass and to aid flow under the rock |
| 17-10-2006 21:18 by mikk |
try ultimate reef good site for marines |
| 18-10-2006 09:27 by Alan |
This is all you need:
Salt (TMC pro reef is the best stm for £59) Refractometer (£39 from stm) Test kits: ph; nitrate; carbonate hardness; calcium; magnesium; phosphate essential. (£8-10 each go for salifert all the others are pants) Protein skimmer as mentioned above v2skims are a good budget option (I think the V2skims start at £80 but expect to spend anything up to £200 if you don't go for the V2skim and don't go for a prizm skimmer). Stream pumps to turnover in excess of 30 times total tank volume per hour or more. Either Seio or Tunze will do the job. (Seio are much cheaper but budget about £30-40 for each pump tunze budget something like £60-70 per pump) Live rock equal to 1 kilo for every 2 gallons of water. so a 50 gallon tank would have 25 kilos of live rock. (budget around £250 for this go for stm live rock) Live sand to cover to about 2 cms depth no more than this. (£15 I think) A UV sterilizer rigged up to a small canister filter that has rowaphos in it but no other media the live rock must provide all of the biological filtration to get complete cycling of waste. (UV plus an eheim classic will set you back around £150 large pot of rowaphos to go in the canister will cost you about £15) Lighting appropriate to the beasts you want to keep and the depth of the tank, T5's are sufficient in most cases but if the tank is going to be 2 foot or over in depth metal halides would be best. (Anything from £100 - £600 depending on what you go for T5 or halides and obviously dependant on tank size) 2 identical large buckets (huge buckets in fact) one is for mixing salt water for water changes the other is for siphoning salt water into, to dispose of. It is important to only ever take out an equal amount of water to that you add otherwise sg fluctuations over time can occur. (£10 each for the buckets and another £10 for garden hose for fillking and emptying the tank also get an eheim hobby pump to pump the water from the bucket into the tank about £30 for one of these but again a smaler pump might be possible depending on the size of the tank) Depending on what the tank is stocked with you may need to choose between a calcium reactor and liquid or powder additives to maintain stable calcium, carbonate and ph. (£30 for chemicals up to £150-300 or so for a calcium reactor) This will give you a pretty good set up and is the basis of any succesful reef. Additions to consider would be a deep sand bed (DSB) or an Algae scrubber/miracle mud filter. Do not be tempted by adding endless canister filters and biological filters it will result in a massive nitrate problem look to nature for the easiest set up. Even for a small tank realistically all of the above is likely to set you back in the region of £500-600 and this is on a budget and does not include the tank. Once the tank is set up they cost not much more than a large freshwater set up to run its the initial outlay that is disturbing. |
| 18-10-2006 17:30 by bluekate |
cheers alan that is absolutely brilliant, i wouldlike to thank you on the time spent writing all that out for me, |
| 18-10-2006 17:30 by bluekate |
oh yeah what is STM  |
| 18-10-2006 17:50 by bluekate |
i got offered this what does every1 reckon?
I have a 5x2x2 with sump setup with siporax and mineral mud. Main tank has circa 35kg of live rock. there is an anemone & 4 clowns currently living in the tank, a polyp rock and a mushroom rock. There is an aquamedic twin T5 Actinic & MH light, various pumps, ehaim external filter and a vectron uv sterilizer. £450.00 is this a good deal and is there anything missing that i could ask him about?? |
| 19-10-2006 09:33 by Alan |
STM is sevenoaks tropical marine web shop is www.stm-shop.co.uk.
I am always wary of buying an established set up just because of the difficulty in moving it and the difficulty in keeping the livestock happy. Having said that you can pick up real bargains going for second hand. Ideally a tank this size though should have about 60 kilos of live rock. Something to consider when moving is the weight of the tank 2 strong people as a minmum possibly 4 to be on the safe side. Shipping all the rock in water pressumably it has a sump if miracle mud is mentioned in that case you will have the extra difficulty with moving it due to the pipe work it would need extensive planning and numerous spares to be on hand at your end as you may have to cut pipe work etc. The advantage of starting from scratch is you are not under pressure for time. |
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