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Posted	discus tank substrate
09-11-2006 20:53 by dave w	what is the best substrate to use in a discus tank, at the moment im using sand but i am finding it difficult to keep it clean looking , any ideas? thanks
09-11-2006 21:02 by Cichlid Fury	sand, easy to keep clean
09-11-2006 21:06 by dave w	where am i going wrong then i part water change twice weekly and vacuum and it still looks messy
09-11-2006 21:11 by Cichlid Fury	what colour sand? i use the Argos play-sand. I once used Silica Sand and that can look grubby, maybe its the colur of the sand rather than the mess?
09-11-2006 22:04 by dave w	just golden colour aquarium sand
10-11-2006 11:21 by jonie	siphon the bits off every other day
10-11-2006 14:04 by OLD MAN	JONIE, HOW DO YOU SIPHON SAND? ALL IT WILL DO IS SUCK THE SAND UP?
10-11-2006 14:04 by OLD MAN	DONT USE SAND FULLSTOP. MUCH BETTER WITH A NICE NATURAL LOOKING GRAVEL. IT IS A PAIN TO CLEAN AND WILL ALWAYS LOOK DIRTY.
10-11-2006 14:52 by jonie	I said syphon off the bits,not the sand its self Not getting into another arguement with you so we'll just have to agree to differ
10-11-2006 15:07 by OLD MAN	YER BUT IF YOU SIPHON OFF THE BITS YOU WILL ALSO SIPHON OUT THE SAND.
10-11-2006 15:45 by keith t	fight fight fight
10-11-2006 15:48 by OLD MAN	no not a fight. just seriusly how the hell do you siphon the rubbish of sand? it just does not work.
10-11-2006 15:50 by keith t	i have a little pile of sand building up on me patio where my syphon hose leads to. its ok though coz im going to sweep it between the slabs thats wot i told the mrs when she started moaning
10-11-2006 15:51 by OLD MAN	lol. i would love sand with my discus. i tryed it before and it was just the biggist nightmare ever.
10-11-2006 15:54 by keith t	im have to suck the *** of mine every other day, sometimes every day if it does my nut in. the good thing though is that the *** doesnt bury itself, if you had gravel it burys and stays in the aquarium alot longer
10-11-2006 15:55 by OLD MAN	yes well that alone is enoff to totaly pee you off. lol
10-11-2006 16:32 by jonie	yep it does old
10-11-2006 21:12 by OLD MAN	dave w, what i would say is. i looks ace sand does! but to answer your question, i dont think there is any way of keeping it clean.
10-11-2006 21:27 by Rob_Ren	I had gravel in my old tank and the gravel was always full with *** no matter how much i siphoned it. I have put sand in my new tank after one shop told me it was a nightmare to siphon and a different shop told me its fine once settled just keep your siphon a little away from the sand (you don't need to disturb the sand like you do with gravel because the **ap sits on top rather than sinking in to gaps) also i have corys and a few other bottom feeders etc.. that stir it up enough to get it into the water body and off away into my large external filter. yes you i still get some crud but the longer i leave the tank the cleaner it seems to get ? I think the fish dig more stirring it up.
10-11-2006 21:29 by OLD MAN	you lot are making me want to put sand back in my tank. stop it! as it was soo much hassle but it looked so god damm good.
10-11-2006 21:32 by Rob_Ren	my corys love it, it's great watching them dig and filter the sand back out through their gills. Sorry i'm still new.
10-11-2006 21:34 by OLD MAN	i had a mixture of natural gravel and a blue sand at one point. that looked relly good, but again you could not siphon it off.
10-11-2006 21:35 by Cichlid Fury	forget olds man gravel advice, sand is better, looks like the OLD MAN is back
10-11-2006 21:42 by OLD MAN	sand is better i agree 110% BUT how do you clean it? it just gets on your **** and before long you change back to the gravel.
10-11-2006 23:15 by Rob_Ren	I got my sand from a lfs and dont have a problem siphoning it, you just need to be a little careful. I need to put my siphon within about 5-10mm of the sand to suck the **ap up without disturbing the sand, further wont lift the crud, touch the sand and you loose a cup full of sand. You just need a steady hand, best to restrict the power of your siphon to give a little more control. I find it looks a lot tidier than gravel full of crud that you cant get out.
11-11-2006 07:51 by dave w	thanks lads for all your advice it seems as though there is no easy solution , i'll just stick my head in the tank and drown myself
11-11-2006 07:51 by dave w	thanks lads for all your advice it seems as though there is no easy solution , i'll just stick my head in the tank and drown myself
11-11-2006 11:07 by jonie	lol

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