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| Posted | Goldfish & Plecs |
| 30-01-2007 12:37 by AndreaC |
Hi. Who has coldfish with a plec?
Just wanted to know what you all think of it and the sucess storys. Ive read on other forums and it seems to lead to strong disagreements between both sides. |
| 30-01-2007 12:41 by paul stevens |
They will be fine with a common plec as they can withstand cold water and my mum has got gold fish with a plec and they are fine. |
| 30-01-2007 13:42 by mannings |
i have kept them together before i had my gibbecep with goldfish for 5 years and had him in a cichlid tank for 6 years now and hes fine. he was fine in the cooler water. but hes getting on a bit now 11years old |
| 30-01-2007 13:58 by AndreaC |
Hi thanks. The comments ive been reading is that the common plec will suck on the fish and kill them!! How likely would this be to happen?? |
| 30-01-2007 14:24 by Woz |
It can happen, but its not to comman |
| 30-01-2007 14:38 by Alan |
It can happen but it is unlikely the plec will directly cause the death of any fish but again I have seen horrific wounds inflicted by a royal panaque on a silver dollar tissue was removed down to bone the silver dollar made a full recovery.
Death is normally caused by the victim having the protective slime layer removed by the plec allowing bacteria to get to the victim and the resulting infection can be very difficult to shift. Plecs will normall only suck onto slow sedentary fish I would not expect goldfish to be threatened by a plec but large catfish and rays are 2 examples of classic victims of such an attack. The silver dollar I had that was attacked by a royal panaque was unusual in that the panaque literally grabbed the silver dollar out of the water column and pinned it. I remedied this by increasing the direct feeding of the royal panaque it never happened again. I tend to feed potato slices all you do is slice a potato into half centimetre thick slices and then freeze it before feeding it defrost it under the hot tap you will note it feels a bit rubbery after you do this once the plec catches on it will dive onto the potato as soon as it is spotted in the tank. Those most likely to do this are the common plec and the gibbiceps as well as royal panaques I think a couple of others tend to do this ancistrus I think have a tendancy to target discus fish not sure about this latter one though. |
| 30-01-2007 14:44 by Alan |
mannings I doubt your plec is getting on so to speak fish of a gibbiceps size I would expect to live up to 30 years possibly more. Most of the Syno's I have I have owned for over 10 years I expect to have them still in the next 20 years. |
| 30-01-2007 16:15 by tasha |
andrea if your looking at gettin normall goldfish i could supply u as i have far to many goldfish fry ? |
| 30-01-2007 21:01 by Danny Boy |
plecs are a tropical fish not really suited to coldwater tanks. you may find americans keeping plecs with cold water as they have a higher temp in the states. we have to be careful on this thread that people dont go out and buy plecs for outdoor ponds etc etc. personally i wouldnt advise keeping goldfish and plecs in the same tank |
| 30-01-2007 21:06 by tasha |
why not try a weather loach ? |
| 30-01-2007 22:21 by Tina c |
I have a common plec in with goldfish had him/her for about two years and he/she is very healthy,my lfs has them in cold water and tropical. I also have two weather loaches which are good cold water fish. so i personally think that the common plec should be fine
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| 07-02-2007 19:57 by AndreaC |
Tasha, I already have comets. Wish I Knew before lol. The common plecs were kept in coldwater and warm water, also when I looked up on the net it says the temp they can be kept in which ranges from 68 to 82 degrees Fahrenheit which goldfish are kept with in those temp (68-74)
http://www.aquatic-hobbyist.com/profiles/freshwater/catfish/plecostomus.html All the sites ive read have said the same. Tina, how big is yours? Looks pretty small in that picture or was that when it was smaller? |
| 04-03-2007 13:27 by stevey boy |
tina c what are u feeding ur plec on i have just bout 2" and am feed these round discs but the goldfish seems to be eating it before they get near it |
| 05-03-2007 08:25 by richard youell |
 I think that the point here is that a plec is essentially a fish from a warm climate and SHOULD NOT be kept in a cold water tank. It would be the same as you sitting in the fridge in just your pants, you would freeze your nuts off. |
| 05-03-2007 09:21 by Linda Chenapa |
I have always kept plecs in 'cold water' tanks. 'Cold water' tanks are just tanks with no heater in, this does not mean that the water is 'cold'. In my experience, un-heated tanks are warm enough for plecs. Of course, if you keep your tank chilled, then yes, the poor plec will freeze it's nuts off, but I don't know of anyone who keeps their fish in a fridge, well, not unless they're dead! |
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