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Posted	White Spot
03-02-2007 16:13 by AndreaC	My comets have gotton White spot Ive bought interpet white spot remover and started treatment. How likely will they survive?? Ive heard a few times today that not many pull through and im worried. Also is there anything else I can do?? I have salted the tank aswell.
03-02-2007 16:32 by Linda Chenapa	Try putting a heater in there.
03-02-2007 16:35 by AndreaC	I darent. Woth out a heater my tank temp is 76!! Comets wouldnt cope with any higher would they??
03-02-2007 16:36 by AndreaC	Sorry *with out*
03-02-2007 16:39 by Linda Chenapa	You need to break the cycle, the problem being that the white spot parasites can't be killed until they reach the free-swimming stage of the cycle.
03-02-2007 17:04 by AndreaC	Ahh I read that today. Does this mean that the treatment ive put in will kill them once there in free swimming stage and that will be end of it? How long is it before the free swimming stage happens?? This is the 1st time ive ever encountered white spot.
03-02-2007 19:12 by Linda Chenapa	It has a fairly complex life cycle that has a major bearing on treatment methods. The white spot trophont (photo below) forms a nodule under the skin or gill epithelium. The trophont constantly moves under the skin, feeding on cells that have died and other body fluids. (yukk) It feeds until mature and then 'punches' its way out of the skin. It then attaches itself to a plant or some other object and forms a capsules around itself. Inside the capsule, the tomont, which is what it is now called, repeatedly divides, producing up to 1000 tomites that finally 'hatch' from the capsule and swim to find a fish host. These small tomites are the infective agent. They burrow into the fish's skin and the cycle starts all over again. That is why the treatment needs to be carried out over several days, this depends on what one you use. At 7oC the life cycle will take six weeks, whereas at 25oC it will be complete in a week so as your tank is at the higher end, it should only take about a week to kill them all, little bu**ers!! Good luck, it can be cured, make sure you remove any carbon you may have in your filter.
03-02-2007 19:12 by Linda Chenapa	Forgot photo
03-02-2007 20:01 by tasha	my tropicals have got white spot atm havnt had it in soo long
03-02-2007 20:51 by Linda Chenapa	Usualy bought on by stress, bad water, overcrowding etc.
03-02-2007 21:05 by tasha	no i fink i gt it off my paradise fish wt a i bought a couple of weeks ago but i took them bak
03-02-2007 21:13 by Linda Chenapa	You can use a uv steriliser, this will kill them off at the free swimming stage, thus breaking the cycle. How's the school tank going tasha?
03-02-2007 22:12 by tasha	the lady mite call tomoz n drop it off here and ill just give it a once over b4 giving it to the skl and testing all the equitment
04-02-2007 09:42 by CichlidRouse	hi can you let me know how you get on with the interpet white spot remover.i have had a few fish deaths using it(fine b4 i used it day after there was 3 dead fish) interpet sent out a goodie box with some of their products in but it still did not give a reason why my fish died .i still trying to sort it out with them
04-02-2007 12:21 by Linda Chenapa	Could it be that they were too ill to recover. No offence, but you say they were fine before but they weren't because they had white spot?
04-02-2007 13:41 by AndreaC	Linda thanks for info. I sat a while last night reding through loads of stuff on it, all said what you have put aswell TBH I now know I bought these fish from a contaminated tank Went to place where I got them from and looked in there tanks, the tank my fish came from all had it aswell so I mentioned it to them and they gave me the treatment and other stuff free. I didnt qaurenteen them as they were all from same tank going into an empty tank anyway. CichlidRouse, Wow you have worried me there but going also on what Linda said and I thought maybe it was because the fish were sick anyway as white spot can kill them. Well thismorning there actualy looking a bit brighter (but not counting chickens before they hatch) One fish has its fin errect again and there all more active than what they have been. Will have to continue the treatment and keep fingers crossed for them. On another forum I was told to raise the temp to 80!! I thought that was to much for comets?
04-02-2007 13:55 by wymcot	There is a strain of whitespot which has basically developed immunity to pretty much all the readily avialable cures. Its my understanding that this is coming in from imported fish which are routinely treated for such things in thier place of origin and is being spread, possibly unknowingly in a few cases, buy those who import, ie LFS etc. If this is the strain you have, then by all accounts all you can do is treat and hope
04-02-2007 15:26 by Linda Chenapa	If you had raised the temp that high, you would def. had to have LOADS of air going in the tank. The higher the temp the faster the life cycle of white spot, so it follows that you can get rid of it quicker.Swings and roundabouts really, have to find what is right for your fish. Glad to hear they are looking a bit better, fingers crossed
04-02-2007 16:45 by keith t	My whitespot remover will do the trick just ask telboy
04-02-2007 16:55 by paul stevens	Yeah all keith does is through another rock in hes tank and take out the fish that has whitespot....
04-02-2007 17:04 by keith t	My fish never get white spot, probably will now i said that
04-02-2007 17:06 by paul stevens	Only because they no what your meds are like... prob kill them anyway..
04-02-2007 17:09 by keith t	oi i remember that when you come calling for some meds
04-02-2007 17:11 by paul stevens	Oi ive only had whitespot once and that was when i had a tank of clown loaches so
04-02-2007 18:29 by keith t	May you get bitten on your testicles by the fleas of a thousand camels
04-02-2007 19:33 by telboy	yes ill back keitht on that claim the meds i got from him are the best ive ever used cleared up the worst case of whitespot ive ever seen in 2-3 days
07-02-2007 19:35 by AndreaC	Im getting a bit worried. I know you have mentioned it gets worse before better but this mean there will be more white spots?? They seem alot worse today, not happy in there selves and there is more white spots! Also on 2 of the fish the end of the tail fins look like a peice is missing, a sqaure end rather than the pointed end. I went to a different store today as needed more salt and they had a different make of salt in which the assistant told me its alot better. Its called Aqualibrium "A physiological salt with built in PH Buffer" Its more expensive and also has a slight yellow colour to it rather than the white salt I have been using. I thought I would try this one. Also they said Interpet (through there experience) isnt that affective and Ive bought through there recommendation one called Protozin by Waterlife. Its a 4 day course.
09-02-2007 19:01 by AndreaC	Well things are getting worse 1 comet has died and the other 2 just sitting at the bottom not eating. Also the plec now has white spots on and also not eating, has been in same spot on the tank side for 24 hours Ive just done day 3 of treatment on this new stuff but things really arent looking good. I dont know what else to do?
09-02-2007 19:33 by keith t	Ask telboy , i told you i had a cure
10-02-2007 18:31 by AndreaC	Things are the same today. Just tested water and Amonia slightly up at 2.5ppm so just going to do water change now. Does medicating a tank mess up the cycle??
11-02-2007 12:53 by AndreaC	Just lost another comet
13-02-2007 19:18 by AndreaC	Well Ive lost them all now
13-02-2007 19:59 by wymcot	andrea, you seem to have never ending problems with your fish. Instead of continually treating the problems would your time not be better spent in identifying the causes. Most of your problem appear to point to tank maintenance and/or the type of fish you are keeping.
15-02-2007 11:55 by AndreaC	Hi wymcot. The white spot case wasnt through my conditions. They had at the time come from a contaminated tank from a LFS which I wasnt aware of then. Ive used this LFS for years and had trust in them. It wasnt until I wnt back and and the whole tank had it it was realised. She gave me the free treatment and since there dieing has refunded me my money. Hmm yeh last time was the problem of me having fancy and goldies together which caused a big problem, Ive soon learnt not to mix them. I had in the past goldfish in a 5ft tank which I had for 9-10 years with no health problems what so ever. I think I blew it when I tried adding, and adding fancy fish. Soon learnt there
15-02-2007 12:35 by wymcot	Abdrea I've never kept goldfish etc in a tank before purley because they preffer cooler temperatures than can normally be achieved indoors. Fancies obviously need these warmer temps, or at least not freezing, which normal goldfish can easily tolerate. Another reason for not keeping them is the mess they make and unless you do have a large tank (your 5 footer obviously was fine) and in addition have some super filtration, water management is always going to be a nightmare. As for the LFS selling the fish in the first place, I personally would be very cautious about re-visiting.
20-02-2007 17:15 by AndreaC	Wymcot. Yes goldfish and fancy fish are a nightmare to keep. I still have in another tank i got cheap which came with a 10" comet, 7" blackmoore and a 6" fancy fish. This woman needed the space. There doing fine now and I kept 50% of the water plus had the established filter and gravel. Lovely fish. With my other tank becoming empty I decided to change that tropical and all is going fab with this tank. Infact I cant believe how much easier and enjoyable tropical is to cold water fish! I wish I had done it years back but thought keeping tropical fish involved harder work for some reason. So I now have differnet types set up. Yeh I told the LFS I got those fish from I wouldnt be buying fish from there again.

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