Home Adverts Recent Added Auction Scam Alerts Fishkeeping Forum List Your Ad ShopAds Videos Tropical Fish Aquariums & Equip Marine Fish & Marine Inverts Cichlids Malawi Tanganyikan Cichlids Wanted Discus Goldfish, Koi & Ponds Retailers & Services ALL ADS By County    Home      Reply     Viewed: 840 -- Replies: 70 -- Page: 1, 2  Next PM | All Topics | General | Cichlids | Marine | Coldwater | Tanks/Equipment | Diseases | Members Posted Intro: kcbubble - hello im new 08-02-2007 21:32 by kcbubble hi folks im karen 32 and just got a tropical tank 4ft about 2 months ago and had few problems ,new to all this so all advise welcome 08-02-2007 21:34 by paul stevens Karen.. 08-02-2007 21:34 by kcbubble sorry put this in wrong thread 08-02-2007 21:34 by paul stevens What problems are you having karen... 08-02-2007 21:34 by kcbubble thanks 08-02-2007 21:35 by paul stevens its ok webbie will change it for you... 08-02-2007 21:35 by netty d Hi Karen and welcome, new tanks are well known for problems, maily due to imature filters and clean water. There all down to new tank syndrome, it does get easier, don't give up 08-02-2007 21:36 by kcbubble didnt realise keeping tanks was more like chemistry lesson im having few probs and it all very confusing on how to do tests etc 08-02-2007 21:37 by tasha hey welcome to the forum wt fish do you keep then ? xx 08-02-2007 21:40 by kcbubble my gourami is suffering i aint got the heart to put it to sleep keep thinking he,ll get better ,my tank looks slightly cloudy treated it for white spot last week done 30% water change then treated for fungas and finrot and i think iv poisoned my gouramis everything else is fine (she says squinting at tank) 08-02-2007 21:42 by kcbubble at moment i got black mollys coolie loaches ,guppy ,dwarf gourami,tetras ,platies,silver sharks, and golden algae and danioseaters just starting out tried to get placid fish and to use all areas in tank made a boob with algae eaters i think 08-02-2007 21:43 by tasha i havnt got the heart to put my fish down wen they get ill just make sure ur have a gd flow of air in the tank do a water test or take some water to ur lfs have you over fed your fish atall as somtimes over feediing can cause the tank togo cloudy ? 08-02-2007 21:46 by netty d daft question time.... what declorinator are you using ? 08-02-2007 21:49 by tasha netty if he answers correct he wins 10 points 08-02-2007 21:51 by netty d you know me too well tasha, and psssttttt i think Karen is a she 08-02-2007 21:56 by saz Hi karen and welcome to the forum 08-02-2007 21:56 by kcbubble yes i am the last time i checked im still female. and excuse my stupidity which appears quite often but what is declorinator , i got fresh start and all the other aquarium treatments in the interpet range if thats any help 08-02-2007 21:56 by tasha i meant she he is the new she 08-02-2007 21:57 by netty d are you treating the tap water before putting it in the tank and making sure it is the same temp' as the water already in the tank 08-02-2007 21:59 by tasha i did a big water change today as my albino died yesterday i fink it was attacks and i found my sajica dead today i was tottaly shocked 08-02-2007 22:18 by jonie oh no! sorry to hear that tash 08-02-2007 22:22 by kcbubble i think im doing everything doing the water change at right temp and no i didnt treat tap water with anything what do you recommend my bro has a tank and never had any probs with his i get everything thats going 08-02-2007 22:22 by kcbubble sorry to hear that tash , it bollox when you lose them 08-02-2007 22:23 by kcbubble heres ma new tank 08-02-2007 22:24 by kcbubble sorry you cant really make it out to good 08-02-2007 22:29 by tasha it looks nice 08-02-2007 22:33 by kcbubble well the plants are still living im scared to go to bed in case i get up and they all floating 09-02-2007 00:11 by keith t I will stay up all night with you 09-02-2007 06:48 by Bogwoodbruce Heres my mate. 09-02-2007 07:22 by netty d Karen, if you are using water straight from the tap you are poisoning them with chlorine. You must use a de chlorinator of some kind, there are loads about, agua safe is one 09-02-2007 08:36 by tank busters welcome karen 09-02-2007 09:08 by wayne or just leave your water to stand for 24 hours before you put it in your tank and cvhlorine will evaporate 09-02-2007 10:36 by tasha hows the fish today kaz ? 09-02-2007 11:02 by netty d I have my water in a swing bin with a 300 watt heater and an air stone.....just to make sure 09-02-2007 11:28 by peedy.swfc hi karen welcome to the forum 09-02-2007 11:40 by Jessica Hi Karen. Welcome. Its just the worst when some one sets up a tank with no effort at all and it all goes right isnt it! When we were moving our house around, we had to get rid of a 4x2x2 like yours (the cabinet was too big ) and I gave it to my dad. He bought de chlorinator and a ph test kit and spent loads on it, but after the first two weeks thought everything was 'ok' When he moved house again, they kept the tank half full and the heater broke and he kept them in cold water and all my fish still survived! I ended up taking them all back to go in another tank I had because he obviously didnt have the time to care for them properly. But it amazes me that cichlids etc where breeding in this tank and I couldnt get them to in mine Some people really just have it easy 09-02-2007 11:42 by Jessica ( Lol my bros got them now.. I dont think theyre as 'educated' in this department as me , they should come to this forum) 09-02-2007 12:07 by Red hook hi karen,your not from sheffield are you 09-02-2007 12:31 by telboy de chlorinator? whats that? never used it in over 20 years fish keeping 09-02-2007 13:18 by Jessica well you should of 09-02-2007 13:19 by telboy why? 09-02-2007 13:22 by Jessica err do remove dangerous chemichals etc from tap water and too help with the protective coat on fish 09-02-2007 13:30 by telboy rubbish,its all a big rip off ya more than welcome to come see any of my tanks ya can do any tests ya want + i bet ya wont find anything wrong with any fish or tank water.if its "OH SO BAD" then how comes ive had no probs with any fish apart from an out break of w/spot on my clown loaches [which are well known for it]go through all the "help my fish are ill" posts on here + i bet they all use chlorinators + anti this + anti that.as long as you keep ya tanks clean + do regular water changes, + dont over stock or over feed there's no need for any of the meds/remedies that so many folk use + in my mind waste so much money on ask paul,kev,lex anyone whos seen my tanks + i bet they'll back me up? but if you wanna waste money on this stuff then its up to you!!! 09-02-2007 13:42 by Jessica waa *** calm dwn tel those who use it, use TO BE SAFE. have you ever seen a black moore that has been through years of water changes with no de clorinator and then seen one thats been through years of water changes using de clorinator. The fact is mate these things are in the water, if theres a chemical that says then can neutralise them (btw they are NOT allowed to lie in advertising so I SEVERLY doubt its bullshit) then us fishkeepers are right to use it. As for anti this anti that the only chemical I use if possible to keep it simple is de chlorinator. Why you making a big hit at us/me? As for LETS SEE YOUR TANK, what the hell has it got too do with your tanks? just because youve been keeping fish for '20 years' so *** what mate. i think you'll find that if you do the RIGHT test for those dangerous poisonous metals after you;ve done a water change. You WILL find then. Lex has also seen my tanks and theres nothing wrong with them. Its on the market for a reason tel.. just because you dont use it doesnt mean its bullshit and doesnt work. Yes, you will be able to keep your fish alive without it but they'd be better off with it 09-02-2007 13:45 by Jessica as for if its 'OH SO BAD' THEN WHY HAVENT YOU HAD NO PROBS WITH YOUR TANK chlorines etc dont effect the water muhc more they effect your fish and WILL stress them more than if you used the de chlorinator. just because you dont have 'probs' with your tank because you decide not too use it doesnt mean no one else does. We choose to use it as good fishkeepers to help our fish, so why ON A FISHKEEPING FORUM are you giving us *** for trying to do better by our fish !!!! 09-02-2007 13:52 by telboy jessica,CALM DOWN gal,no need for swearing!im not having a pop at you or anyone else,just pointing out the fact that ive never used it or any other chemicals + ive had no probs,where as those that do use chemicals seem to have nowt but probs,i know of a few folk who use dechlorinator + do tests every day,they add this + that yet theyre fish are dieing on em regularly,so unless youve become webmaster overnight, i have gotta right to put my point of view on here do i not??? 09-02-2007 14:01 by paul stevens Ill back you up on the telboy 100% what you are saying about meds and treatments waste of good money i will admit the only thing i use is tapsafe thats about it but as far as i know tel doesnt even use that and hes tanks are spot on.... 09-02-2007 14:14 by Jessica fair enough tel.. its good you have no probs however i never said i was webbie, i never said you couldnt have an opinion niether did i? its with accepting your opinion i put mine across.. is that ok? paul.. ive seen his tanks theyre amazing (i get jealous ) and look perfect.. and he used tapsafe as he just said. its just with what you were saying, its as if your implying those of us who use these dont have immaculate tanks.. well look at pauls for that one. Tel you have fair points there, however i stand by what i said.. and I severly doubt that because people add de chlorinator.. it creaes problems in the tank. I think other chemichals.. yes but not this one mate. I try not to use any chemichals but aqua safe if i can and my tanks are fine. i know from experience things that are sposed to get rid of disease in the tank etc.. arent so good. I used one for bacteria thing (way time ago now)and it just came back again and again. 09-02-2007 14:15 by Jessica * as for paul typing error lol 09-02-2007 14:29 by zzrpassion hey guys stop bickering, tel i dont use meds or treatments fr my water just buffer and my fish r always breedin so this would say its optional but not necsry, Hi karen and welcome to the forum 09-02-2007 14:35 by Jessica zzr were not bickering were putting our opinions across mate this is what a forum is for.. advice, ideas and opinions. Again zzr what you said is your opinion. of course its optional no one HAS to use it because some people dont. But its not to say people shouldnt use it. Tbh I dont think we can settle this unless we get proof (i mean hard evidence- not the fact you dont use anything and your fish are breeding) that it is or is not beneficial 09-02-2007 15:55 by Alan Flipping heck not another girl on the forum! Only joking welcome. 09-02-2007 16:07 by wayne you only angry alan because now thier someone else whos going to be throwing handbags around 09-02-2007 16:22 by keith t Im with Telboy, i used to use it all the time but big waste of money, now all i do is let the water stand for 4 hours to let the chlorine evaporate and add some bicarbonate of soda if its for my malawi set up or nothing if its for my planted cardinal tank. Ive used all sorts over the years including ro units but half the time you are just throwing aload of money down the drain 09-02-2007 16:28 by netty d That's cos your suvvern tel, and too tight to put ya hand in your pocket 09-02-2007 16:39 by Red hook well said netty ,southern pufters lol 09-02-2007 16:42 by telboy like ive said before,the only good thing to come outta the north is us southerners on our way back home! 09-02-2007 16:54 by Red hook i hope you wiped your feet on our hallowed earth telboy 09-02-2007 16:58 by telboy of cause i did,im a gentleman,also i didnt wanna bring back all that northern contamination to ENGLAND! 09-02-2007 17:12 by keith t the only thing i wipe on your hallowed earth is my arse 09-02-2007 17:47 by Jessica some one had to say it 09-02-2007 23:04 by netty d tel bbe....you know if you ever came to me you would never leave 09-02-2007 23:28 by telboy 10-02-2007 10:01 by Ed Gotta go with telboy there ,i dont use dechlorinator or any of the chemicals your just adding a chem to a chem ,a big rip off.I keep marines no chems there and after keeping fish for over 25 years no real problems. 10-02-2007 10:04 by wayne i dont use any chemicals in my tanks , as ed says a big rip off 10-02-2007 10:34 by tasha i dnt use nefin either 10-02-2007 10:46 by Bogwoodbruce Same here, no delcorinator, just leave the water to stand. 10-02-2007 11:19 by Bogwoodbruce keithy the earth is the only thing big enough for your fat arse 10-02-2007 13:47 by Jessica dont have the time to leave the water to stand me, getting the temp is bad enough. So I will stick with using de chlorinator 11-02-2007 20:06 by kcbubble oh my god i cant believe how many people wrote in , god this a is a busy place i need to come here more often , and to the chap that asked no not sheffield im in scotland, so a de clohrinater or leace water to stand , i have no *** luck at all my bros tank and my sister who cant tell the diferrence from gold fish to tropical and they all live together , seem to have no probs at all -- Page: 1, 2  Next NEW REPLIES ARE NOW CLOSED ON THIS FORUM We invite you to join the NEW Aquarist Classifieds Fishkeeping Forum HERE Your contributions to this forum are greatly appreciated. This forum will be retained in archive status for reference. Adverts Previous Fish Biz Sitemap Links All Sponsor Clubs Webmaster Our Sponsors ShopAds Visits

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