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| Posted | New tank any ideas |
| 21-02-2007 21:17 by BOBX |
I have been out of the fish game for about a year. I moved house last January and could not take my 5x2x3 set up. I did have F/W rays and Arowana in this set up, proberbly spent £1000 and it broke my heart to sell it, "felt like I was robbed".
Anyway I have just managed to somehow part with £250 for a 48x24x18 trouble is I dont know what to put in it. Im not sure how much more money I can slip out of the account without my other half worrying im addicted again. Come on give me some ideas I did like the big oddballs, what do you suggest. |
| 21-02-2007 21:18 by tasha |
ANGEL FISH ! |
| 21-02-2007 21:25 by BOBX |
I want somthing with a bit more of a challenge I think. |
| 21-02-2007 21:27 by AndreaC |
Ahh I cant suggest anything then. Im just starting on tropical fish and gone for the easy hardy ones to start lol. |
| 21-02-2007 21:39 by tasha |
discus |
| 21-02-2007 21:53 by BOBX |
I thought maybe discus but do they realy need the R/O water changes as I dont drive and feel R/O process wastes alot of water.
When I had my ray setup I just treated tap water weekly. I didnt use R/O water and never had any problems. |
| 21-02-2007 21:53 by saz |
Fire eel 
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| 21-02-2007 21:55 by BOBX |
Your Fire eel is nice but would it not get to big. Are they predatory, as I would not get to many big fish in a tank this size. |
| 21-02-2007 22:02 by saz |
they get to a max of 39 inch in the wild but ive read they arnt really seen over 21-22 inch in aquaria, mine is 22 inch and he is harmless, feeding on whitebait and prawn  |
| 21-02-2007 22:23 by saz |
Maybe birchir  |
| 21-02-2007 22:54 by BOBX |
I realy fancy marine prberbly F/O to start. I know marine is not cheap but could I have a busy tank relative to the size. Also if I were to have a F/O system and bought my r/o salt water for changes would there be much more maintinance that I need to do. |
| 22-02-2007 06:46 by Bogwoodbruce |
Malawi? |
| 22-02-2007 06:46 by Bogwoodbruce |
Tangs? |
| 22-02-2007 07:45 by bluboy |
get a ufo fish ,put a radiator behind ur tank and culd blag urself as paul.then u cld join the "i have a tank with a ufo fish and a radiator background club" and have ur tank pic on a mug like paul did.  |
| 22-02-2007 10:16 by Alan |
What about breeding Uaru that would be a challenge.
If you wanted to go marine reef would be cheaper to set up than fish only as with a reef you don't want power filters just the live rock and a skimmer. As you are on a budget I would sufggest you use Wave stuff from stm. Here is a shopping list for your 75 gallon tank. 20lbs caribsea aragalive £20.99 20 kilos premium grade live rock £189 this is the base rock. 20 kilos ultra grade live rock this is the top stuff £239 2 x marea 6000 £63.49 each Wave 400P skimmer this is a hang on skimmer that should be easy to modify to fit over bracing bars. £78.78 Lighting - T5's Arcadia luminaire 4 x T5 54w £218.40 Or metal halide twin arcadia 150 watt with 2 blue actinic T5's £552.60 The only difference between fish only and reef for me is the lighting although big polluting fish would need an uprated skimmer and possibly power filtration as the nutrient load maybe to much for the berlin method to handle. You would also need the following stuff. Refractometer £40 Salt use TMC pro reef it seems to give the best results although alk and calc will need slight boosting it seems to be the trace stuff that is superior to all other salts on the market I have found a huge difference in polyp extension. £60 for a bucket that will make up 200 gallons of salt water. A good book I have no recommendations I'm afraid as I winged it from the start and have learned through trial and error not advisable its expensive. Test kits: Alk PH Calcium Nitrate Phosphate are the must test others to have on standby would be ammonia nitrite magnesium. Only use salifert kits the rest in my experience are toilet! About £10 each Phosphate remover this should be used from day one. RO unit absolutely vital. When setting up the tank first time fill the tank to about 90% full (this will leave space for displacement when the rock and sand goes in) with ro water and add the required salt to get a salinity of 1.026 sg. Once the salt is in get all the equipment running doesn't matter if the salt hasn't fully disolved when you do this the 2 power heads will soon sort it as they will turnover the total tank volume 30 times per hour. Once the salt has disloved and the temp is at 24oc (oh yes you will need a heater 300 watt I think it won't kick in much though once the tank is up and running) get the live rock in 20 kilos premium grade with the 20 kilos ultra grade on top it may be worth using epoxy resin to hold the rock in place think is cold reef putty or something like that it will set under water. Once the rock is in place carefully put the live sand in it will make the water go cloudy but it will settle out eventually. Run the tank like this for 8 weeks. This will give the tank a chance to stabilise and give the copepods and the like a chance to establish add a small amount of liquid food such as marine snow every other day. Within this 8 week period you will need to start adding grazers up to 40 turbos and a similar number of hermits. After the 8 weeks add a group of hardy peaceful fish such a green/neon chromis these are relatives of damsels but are not territorial. Once these are established and happy as larry start thinking about other stock for the tank plan it carefully making sure the most territorial fish goes in last. If you are not going to quarantine the fish avoid tangs as the risk of white spot is very high and be very careful when choosing live stock. Hardy fish to consider that are reef suitable would be the following: Dwarf angel coral beauty is the most robust. Fox face these are related to tangs but are much hardier. Cardinal fish such as the banggai cardinal or emperor cardinal I would go for a pair of these. Small wrasse could go for a group of banana wrasse or flasher wrasse or fairy wrasse. With the likely high population of copepods you could try a mandarin fish. Fridmani basslet is relatively peaceful for a basslet and looks stunning. you could also add a group of neon gobies these will often carry out cleaning duties on fish and will probably spawn in the tank. And of course a couple of tank bred clown fish buy 2 percs and chances are they will pair up and become inseperable. Algae blenny would be good too. This will give you something to think about for the future if you don't give it a go now as a way of getting it past the misses just search for all the fish on google and show her the colourful ones that should get round her. Coral wise it is dependant on the lighting you choose but I would keep it simple go for polyp colonies and mushrooms as well as a leather coral and finger coral and some xenia can't go wrong with all this really. I maintain calcium and alk using seachem reef calcium and builder. A lot of people use 2 part additives but my method works well for me so I'm not going to change it. Anyway all the best in what ever you decide. Some will be thankful my essay has now finished!  |
| 22-02-2007 10:26 by Alan |
There are some howlers of grammatical errors in there oops. |
| 22-02-2007 10:58 by BOBX |
Wow thanks Alan for taking the tme to post your reply, I will read it in detail. |
| 22-02-2007 11:03 by tasha |
try guppies ? |
| 22-02-2007 12:05 by Alan |
This may be a useful source.
http://www.aquarist-classifieds.co.uk/php/detail52_64666.php |
| 22-02-2007 20:10 by tasha |
why not guppies ? |
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