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Posted	BIO BALLS sump filter
28-02-2007 21:32 by SomethingFishy	I am updating my sump to 110 gallon, i am currently using ceramic media and filter wool. Can i please ask what peoples views are on how effective bio balls are, average price to pay and any recomended sellers. Thanks in advance.
28-02-2007 21:47 by wymcot	You would be far better using something like alfragrog as it has a far greater surface area than bioballs and subsequently can accomodate a far greater population of bacteria
28-02-2007 22:00 by SomethingFishy	where is a good place to buy it from i have seen it being used in koi ponds etc but never seen it for sale
28-02-2007 22:05 by Flying saucer owner	Bio balls are much more efficient than alfagrog. They are self cleaning where as after a while alfragrog becomes clogged with detritus which decreases its effectiveness & it starts to pong
28-02-2007 22:19 by wymcot	Obviously personal choice but I have never had alfagrog clog up and I have been using it for years. Bioballs are great in large quantities, say in a trickle filter, but for bog standard externals you just cant get enough in there.
28-02-2007 22:21 by wayne	yes but if you give it a good rinse /shake in the aquarium water its as good as new , i use alfagrog in all my filters , bio balls are well over priced and over rated , even flocor is miles cheaper
28-02-2007 22:46 by SomethingFishy	Where is the best place to source alfragrog and what should i expect to pay for it ? thanks
28-02-2007 22:48 by Flying saucer owner	'Bioballs are great in large quantities, say in a trickle filter, but for bog standard externals you just cant get enough in there' Yes they are not meant for external filters but SomethingFishy wants to use them in a sump.
28-02-2007 22:59 by Flying saucer owner	'yes but if you give it a good rinse /shake in the aquarium water its as good as new , i use alfagrog in all my filters , bio balls are well over priced and over rated , even flocor is miles cheaper' Depends on the size of the sump & the fish that hes keeping. If he is using a large sump with some sort of ceramic/porous media to filter the waste of large fish, cleaning the media will soon become a chore.
28-02-2007 23:07 by wymcot	I obviously missed the sump bit
28-02-2007 23:16 by wayne	go with what works for you >
28-02-2007 23:48 by paul stevens	Yeah just go and buy some of each save all the banter mind you we like a bit of banter in here aint been any for awhile...
01-03-2007 09:40 by Alan	Is this freshwater or marine?
01-03-2007 10:23 by SomethingFishy	It is freshwater and i have the sump setup as in the pic
01-03-2007 10:54 by SomethingFishy	I guess i should add the full setup info. It is to filter 10 tanks from 2x 4 foot 5x 3foot and 3x 18" cubes The bio load is 1x 9" coral butterfly 6x 4-6" Giraffe Haps 2x 4" Flame mouths 1x 3" Dubosi (Asbo as he is known in the family right trouble maker but loves being with the haps) 2x 8" Long neck soft shell turtles 30x 1" rummy nose 1x Melonacromis Aurotis (Rambo) The pump is an industrial sump pump and can do 600 gal per hour. Thanks Something Fishy
01-03-2007 11:19 by Alan	Fill it with alfa grog you can get a 20lb back for about a tenner normally from koi specialist outlets you will probably need to break it up a bit. Great for big polluters as it does not clog in the same way as cintered glass does.
01-03-2007 11:21 by Alan	Bio balls are good but they have never impressed me when used on koi ponds I have always thought there must be something better. As far as cleaning it goes just oyck it out every couple of months and give it a good clean in a large bucket of tank water in fact a better option would be to do the chambers alternately on a 3 week cycle.

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