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Whitespot-only on one fish... |
01-03-2007 09:52 by Jake Casson
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My peacock bass has it after introducing some 11 huge clown loach (biggest 7 inches). Thing is he is the only fish that has it, treated it with WS3 which is the best treatment in my veiw but didnt work. Now im trying eSHa EXIT, but im abit reluctant to keep chuncking these things in as have many sensitive fish. Can I treat him on his ie will salt baths help....? Thanks in advance |
01-03-2007 09:58 by Alan
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I don't like salt baths very risky.
A more succesful treatment is raising the salinity of the water in order to kill the parasites as soon as they drop off. Whilst on the fish they are protected from any remedy.
You have to love clown loaches poxy things they look good but they carry whitespot like the plague can't stand them for that!
What media do you have in your filters?
Are you able to remove the peacock bass from the tank and treat him seperately if you do this quickly you may get away with no treating the tank so viciously.
In theory those in the water column should already be dead it is just those on the peacock bass that are the problem. |
01-03-2007 12:06 by Jake Casson
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Cheers Alan, cant really take him out as he's 11" long and have nowhere to put him. Taken the carbon, peat, carbon and phos pads out the bucket filter but I still think the huge surface area of the biological media takes the treatments out.
Will the stingray, siamese tiger (freshwater sup species) and black ghost knifes cope with salt ok? Also what amount of salt, they are currently in 360 litres (small tank)?
Thanks |
01-03-2007 12:23 by Alan
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C h r i s t stop treating with any remedies now you will kill the ray.
Immediately put the carbon back in and get the treatments out.
As far as treating this fish goes you are going to have to find away of getting this fish out of the tank to treat it.
Use a loft water tank or something like that nip to B&Q and buy one and get a heater and get a filter to put on the water tank and use media from one of the filters in the mature tank that has the spot. This will instantly mature the treatment pool.
DO NOT USE ANY MEDICATIONS WITH RAYS UNLESS YOU WANT TO REPEAT MY DISASTER AND NEVER BE ABLE TO KEEP RAYS IN THE SET UP AGAIN.
Also a 360 litre tank is way to small for all of these fish especially an 11" Peacock bass what are you doing adding 11 large Clown loaches to the set up?
The peacock bass alone will out grow the tank they can attain 75cms in length.
And the ray can attain a disc size of 18" - 24" easy.
Research and be sensible please. |
01-03-2007 12:38 by Jake Casson
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Its a 6' tank so big enough currently until I move into new house and setup bigger tank. Will get another tank to treat him, so should I just use salt and at what amount? Cheers |
01-03-2007 13:01 by Jake Casson
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Just doing a 40% water change then will place all carbon back. Couldnt bear to lose the ray. |
01-03-2007 13:47 by Ste
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Jake where abouts are you . i have a spare tank that would be big enough to treat the peacock bass in , its 30x20x18 £15 and its yours mate |
01-03-2007 13:52 by Jake Casson
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West Sussex mate, off to buy something now like a storage container. Wheres you? |
01-03-2007 14:00 by Alan
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Which ray have you got if motoro go for a tank at least 30" wide and 7 foot long. Depth is not critical for ray.
Put clean carbon back in not the stuff you removed best to use fresh stuff the treatments could cause the carbon to leach other nasties that it has previously absorbed.
Rays are fine with salt but as the only fish affected by whitespot is the peacock and you have got remedies in there you will hopefully only have the peacock to worry about and the main tank should be unaffected due to the already present remedy. |
01-03-2007 14:01 by Alan
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Salt is one of the few safe remedies with rays. |
01-03-2007 14:02 by Jake Casson
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Cant I just add salt to the tank and treat it that way? Cheers |
01-03-2007 14:07 by Jake Casson
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Ray is a retic, will be in a 8x30x30. I do not buy fish I cant keep for life.
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01-03-2007 14:13 by Alan
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Salt is not a fast cure it would be far better to get the effected fish out of there and treat it seperately there are also some strains of whitespot that are immune to the salt trick not many but a few I have had to deal with it myself and it is very hard wouldn't risk it again to be frank I have learned the hardway and as a result will never keep rays again unless I can set up a dedicated ray only tank of at least 7'x 2'x 30" with a 4'x 2'x 2' sump underneath. The intention then would be to obtain a pair of rays probably retic or scobina as they are the smallest rays with the intention of breeding them.
I am also not sure how the clown loaches would deal with the salt if they are currently uneffected leave them where they are otherwise they should also join the peacock bass in the water tank.
This is why I now feel rays are better suited to species tanks. |
01-03-2007 15:49 by Jake Casson
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Just bought a 90 litre koi bowl so setting that up for him, gonna treat with treatment instead of salt. Fingers crossed it'll all be fine. Ray doesnt look very happy now but carbon and water changes should sort that.
Cheers alan |
03-03-2007 09:15 by Jake Casson
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Bass dead, should have left it in the tank, added salt and rised temp.
Not having much luck recently |
05-03-2007 10:01 by Alan
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Sorry to hear that jake it is very difficult when keeping rays to deal with this sort of problem. On the plus it is just one fish and not more. |
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