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Posted	Black Moors
07-03-2007 11:15 by Ltyler	Hi there, I first bought a black moor its own about 3 weeks ago but it recently died, not sure why? It didn't seem to have any white spots but before it died it seemed to be floating just very slightly to its side (not much) and at the top of the water, i came home one night and found it lying at the top, dead. Anyway I went back to the pet shop where I got two more this time they gave me oxygen tabs and disease safe. Would it be because I have no pump or do you think its more a case of bad luck? I also heard you can feed fish cucumber and peas as a treat is this true?
07-03-2007 11:26 by telboy	hello, black moors are notorious for this sort of thing,it sounds like swim bladder prob's!as for pump,do you mean air pump? if so if you have adequate filtration, as long as you have disturbance ie rippling at the water surface you should be ok!but for future reference,if you buy a fish + it dies within a short period, try another shop
07-03-2007 12:11 by Ltyler	Hi there Ok thank you. I don't have any pump at all, just a round bowl? Would you recommend getting a pump then? Also in answer to my questions can you feed these fish, peas and cucumber, sounds rather silly but I don't have alot of knowledge on fish? Thanks
07-03-2007 12:19 by diane	any fancy goldfish wont survive in a bowl, they need a filter and you need to cycle it to build up a bacteria level to cope with the fishs waste. normal goldfish can cope for a while with the level of ammonia but even they will die in the end of poisening. you can try changing 20% of the water daily but to be honest i doubt they will survive for too long withour any filtration. di
07-03-2007 14:56 by bluboy	diANES RIGHT. THEY WONT THRIVE IN A BOWL. YOU NEED A PROPER TANK WITH A FILTER THAT IS CYCLED
08-03-2007 10:13 by telboy	so you just have a bowl,no filter,no air pump? if so thats why fish died.get rid of bowl n get a proper tank with a decent filter + maybe youll have more luck un till you do all ya fish will die!
08-03-2007 11:46 by Ltyler	Hi there I did keep fish in a bowl and they lasted about three years? Isn't it more a case of hit and miss with fish? I find they can be very temperamental no matter how well you treat them?
08-03-2007 14:09 by AndreaC	I suppose it can be hit and miss and there are people that can manage to keep fish in bowls for a few years. My school seems to How ever they would live longer and healthyer in a proper filtered set up, also grow alot bigger. I think its best to set up a proper filtered tank so the fish thrive rather than think along the lines of hit and miss, will they survive. Esp with blackmoores as they are alot more sensitive. I have a 7" black moore, 10" comet and 7" Ryukin x that are only 2 years old. Buying a filter and a tank doesnt really add up to much if you start with good basic ones, you can then progress from there as you go along (better filters, live plants, lighting etc..) Providint them the right enviroment will make them thrive and its great to see that. people come in and see my goldies and are shocked by the size of them, as many now days dont get to grow big before they die. have to say there growing isnt down to me, I bought them like this and there tank off a friend lol.
09-03-2007 07:24 by diane	Ltyler I dont think its hit or miss at all, single tail goldfish are pretty much like wild fish (carp) and can withstand a lot of aduse, they take ages to die. Fish that have been changed by breeding techniques and kept in specilised filtered tanks are very sensitive to change. So you take a fish thats always been kept in ammonia and nitrites free water and subject them to large amounts of these poisens. Get a normal pond fish and they will be fine, they are bred to cope with extremes.

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