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| Posted | crossbred fish what are your views |
| 01-05-2007 22:14 by tasha |
i just want to know your views as two of my fish have bred and there diffrent typs of fish ? |
| 01-05-2007 22:17 by Linda Chenapa |
They were just doing what comes natuarly. It happens with dogs, cats, horses, tigers, lions, people.
Have you got the school tank set up yet? |
| 01-05-2007 22:19 by tasha |
yes its got 4 fish init
lol my digi cam broke so if anyone wants ne pics ill have to send them by mobile  |
| 01-05-2007 22:40 by Jim Son |
well said Linda
the Malawi nuts go a bit mental about it, moaning about "cant work out what species is what", just let fish do their thing, END OF |
| 01-05-2007 22:43 by Derek S |
Personally i love hybrids...then we wouldnt have Blood parrots,Flowerhorns or Red texas's |
| 01-05-2007 22:45 by tasha |
anotherthing as my fish have been breeding abit i take it that there happy in there surroundings |
| 01-05-2007 22:49 by Jim Son |
wymcot will be all over this thread, preaching from his bible of fish-keeping, i just hope Paul Stevens is on line to moderate  |
| 02-05-2007 06:33 by Danny Boy |
just think one day you'll only have to choose from one fish in the shop. that'll be good... |
| 02-05-2007 07:24 by Linda Chenapa |
DB - Like humans........?
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| 02-05-2007 07:57 by bolty |
Red Devils (as we all no are mixed RD/Midas)
Flower Horns (who knows what are in there bits of everythink!) Blood & Jelly Been Parrots Striped Sajica (Sajica/Con) Yellow Tailed Catfish (Red Tail/Tiger Shovel) manaconda (Festae/Jag) people dont have a prob with the "normal" X-bred fish so why the big deal now? i'll find some pics of them in a mo...... when people post pics of there tanks with parrots in them people dont say "kill that thing" 
or if some1 postes a pic of there pride and joy FH people dont say that should of been used as a feeder when it was small, they say wow nice fish, that FH is nice, them BP's are bright and $h!t like that i say if it happens so what, see a fish you like have it dont like it dont have it! 4 all the RD/Midas out there you can still get a pure RD or Midas if you wanted 1, they have been of mixed breedings 4 years and years, the odd 1 or 50 home Xbreeding are nok going to kill the fish keeping world THIS IS JMO (dont all jump on me i have a bad back ) |
| 02-05-2007 07:58 by bolty |
manaconda (Festae/Jag)
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| 02-05-2007 07:59 by bolty |
manaconda (Festae/Jag) take2
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| 02-05-2007 08:01 by bolty |
RD/Midas
(my fish)  |
| 02-05-2007 08:03 by bolty |
Yellow Tailed Catfish (Red Tail/Tiger Shovel)
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| 02-05-2007 08:11 by bolty |
Flower Horns
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| 02-05-2007 08:13 by bolty |
Blood Parrot
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| 02-05-2007 08:14 by bolty |
Jelly Been Parrots
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| 02-05-2007 08:16 by bolty |
Striped Sajica (Sajica/Con)
my fish..... con female sajica male  |
| 02-05-2007 08:18 by bolty |
and there fry
(i did use these as arro food) 
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| 02-05-2007 08:34 by PaddyD |
The main problem. is the risk of cross bred fish being sold as pure bred. As is often the case of Convict/spilurum/sajica hybrids and flowerhorns being sold as trimacs.
Since the fish live a long time - by the time they go through lots of hands it can be difficult to identify hybrids, which can then contaminate pure bred stock. It is not something that occurs very often in nature. It tends to happen in nature only when populations are artificially introduced or 2 species/populations are forced together by mans activities. So althogh most species can be obtained as pure stock still. Due to habitat loss and war in certain countries, This may not be the case in the future. So personally I would rather see tankspace taken up by pure species to keep a good genetic base rather than hybrids, which although attractive, don't provide any thing we can give back. But of course they do have a place for many people. Just my feelings |
| 02-05-2007 09:18 by D.R. |
Great pics Bolty! my daughter would love those jelly been parrot fish, do they stay coloured for long?
Interesting topic and controversal as well. As already stated by some peeps the hybridisation occurs naturally in the wild. Happens a lot in our own UK waters too. Plaice/Flounder hybrids Roach/Rudd hybrids So long as the hybrids are sold as hybrids and reputable breeders keeping stock of their fish, then there shouldnt be any problems or confusion. |
| 02-05-2007 09:49 by bolty |
hay D.R them fish are dyed
i have no knolage of dyed fish at all! you could read up on it, not sure where you would get any dyed fish from as i'v never seen any in the flesh, wether it in other peoples fish tanks or LFS stock, but then i'v only been in the hobby 16years! http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=dyed+fish&meta= |
| 02-05-2007 10:49 by Woz |
cant stand died fish, dont get them, my views on the matter....dont deliberately cross breed fish, if it happens then so be it, but deal with the young ones your self, dont sell them on or give them away. |
| 02-05-2007 10:56 by big cats |
i kept fish when parrots first became available ,what an uproar,if people at that time had spent as much time controlling the way fish were treated by importers and collectors as they did going on about the rights and wrongs then the hobby would be improved today.
man has been modifying fish in one way or another for generations,if the big catfish crosses help as food fish for third world countries then why not keep them as pets ? i would love a nice red tail cross ,but cant seem to find any right now. so the ladies fish interbred as long it is made clear to anyone who gets the fish what they are or may be it is hardly a crime, dying fish on the other hand should be |
| 02-05-2007 11:24 by PaddyD |
I totally agree with DR and Big Cats - There is no problem if they are labelled as such for the life of the fish. The problem is this does not happen and Hybrids are sold as pure species in many cases.
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| 02-05-2007 12:22 by tasha |
i think every animal deserve life even if it is a mongrole |
| 02-05-2007 12:38 by Linda Chenapa |
Hear, hear Tasha, where would the world be without Paul LOL   |
| 02-05-2007 22:03 by Danny Boy |
dyed fish is a whole new topic also see the pics of the tattooed parrots. very cruel process only well regarded by the chinese really |
| 02-05-2007 22:10 by paul stevens |
Oi oi why was my name mention linda... |
| 02-05-2007 22:14 by Linda Chenapa |
'think every animal deserve life even if it is a mongrole'
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| 02-05-2007 22:24 by paul stevens |
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| 02-05-2007 22:44 by wayne |
WHOS ROCKING CHAIR DO YOU THINK IS MORE COMFORTABLE PAUL , DANNY BOYS OR ALANS |
| 02-05-2007 23:15 by paul stevens |
I dont no mate i think its 49% to 51% in favour to danny i think what do you reckon... |
| 04-05-2007 09:15 by Alan |
As I have said before I haven't bought one yet but a while ago I did see a nice leather one with a rocking leather foot stool.
Dyed fish should be illegal end of, it amazes me that gm fish (the glowing danios) are illegal but fish tatood or dyed are legal although it is illegal to produce these tatood or dyed fish in this country thankfully. As far as hybrids go it is something that should always be discouraged when possible and I do not think suppliers should breed hybrids however providing if sold they are clearly marked as hybrids and not as a new species as often happens I do not see the problem but it is always down to the purchaser carefully researching all fish they intend to keep before buying. |
| 04-05-2007 11:23 by curviceps |
I have been against hybrids for the reasons listed above, finding decent true cichlids is hard enough without having to wade through the mutts that are being advertised. I have bred hybrids myself by mistake, I didn't know the a male Heros appendiculatus would breed with a female Hypselecara coryphenoides. These never made it out the door though. Looking at some of the pics above, in particular the manaconda, when you have Parachromis friedrichsthalii or Parachromis loisellei or even Parachromis motaguense, then I don't really see the need for the hybrid? Each to their own, but not for me. |
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