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fao netty d |
10-05-2007 18:51 by tracyanne
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here ya go about 7 inch male female 5 inch a guess |
10-05-2007 18:52 by tracyanne
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here is one
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10-05-2007 18:53 by tracyanne
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here is male
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10-05-2007 18:53 by netty d
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ta darlin, they look like rainbows, i been looking for a male for yonks |
10-05-2007 18:53 by tracyanne
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face
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10-05-2007 18:54 by netty d
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yep deffo rainbows |
10-05-2007 18:55 by tracyanne
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they have had young but they got sucked in under the under gravel
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10-05-2007 18:56 by telboy
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not rainbows netty |
10-05-2007 18:56 by tracyanne
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well if ya intreasted in em let us know has there on ebay . let us know |
10-05-2007 18:57 by netty d
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i have a pair already, but am convinced there lesbos..... |
10-05-2007 18:58 by tracyanne
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lol |
10-05-2007 18:58 by netty d
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there the same rainbows as mine tel and the same as the ones that were on ebay last week |
10-05-2007 18:58 by telboy
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aint that the 1 i gave kev ?[pic2] |
10-05-2007 18:58 by tracyanne
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we have no clue what they are we thought black belts but not
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10-05-2007 18:59 by tracyanne
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they were similare but he was agressive to theses ones so my baby brothers got him in his tank |
10-05-2007 20:01 by curviceps
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Def not rainbows, possibly a fenestratum? |
10-05-2007 20:13 by Jim Son
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not rainbows as already stated |
10-05-2007 20:20 by paul stevens
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Up above the streets and houses rainbows climbing high everyone can see the rainbow in the skys....
Anyone remember that. |
10-05-2007 20:43 by big cats
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zippy was cool? in a weird way? if these are juvenile could be bifasciatum? they are not unlike synspilum. if they are fully grown then buggered if i know |
10-05-2007 21:07 by netty d
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lol paul, we aint all as old as you and if you type in rainbow chiclids on your search bar and look at different sites, i'm sure you will see the similarities ?. They look different on each site.....hence rainbow cichlid ? They differ in every region due to water quality. I may be wrong, but they are deffo like mine and mine are 100% rainbow cichlids |
10-05-2007 21:14 by curviceps
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The fish in those pics are only half grown, they are def not Herotilapia multisponosa. |
10-05-2007 21:16 by curviceps
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Sorry meant to say, they are either Veijas or Paratheraps of some sort. |
10-05-2007 21:22 by netty d
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Rainbow Cichlid (Herotilapia multispinosa) ......... Herotilapia multispinosa ''Rainbow Cichlid'' hope they work as links...... |
10-05-2007 21:22 by paul stevens
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I know what they are they are fish.... |
10-05-2007 21:23 by netty d
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naaaaa.....lol, copy and paste them, see what you think |
10-05-2007 21:24 by netty d
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paul......they are deffo fish (i know this as they are pictured in water) |
10-05-2007 21:34 by curviceps
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Look at the sizes quoted for Rainbows, the sizes quoted in first post are bigger than that. There are similarities in the stripe, but Rainbows should be a lot more yellow than those fish are. I have kept rainbows before, and have kept a few Veijas, I can only offer my opinion based on my own experiences with these species. |
10-05-2007 21:41 by Ste
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They are cichlasoma synspilum young . Rainbows are brown with a black stripe and more rounded in the face |
10-05-2007 21:44 by Ste
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his is a rainbow cichlid
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10-05-2007 21:51 by netty d
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that's a bad pic of a rainbow.....there are better sites with better pics |
10-05-2007 21:52 by curviceps
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Could be Vieja synspila |
10-05-2007 22:03 by big cats
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curviseps and ste are most likely not wrong vieja is simply a newer name than the good old cichlosoma. they are possibly synspilus (synspilum) but could be bifasciatum as synspilum are very similar (usually have a more red face? though) |
10-05-2007 22:13 by Jim Son
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looks like this could be a long night... |
10-05-2007 22:16 by paul stevens
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Well if netty d has anything to do with it it will..... |
10-05-2007 22:20 by netty d
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lmao paul, what ya trying to say all i've seen so far is "it looks like"...."i think".....anyone really know what they are ?.....cos there the double of my rainbow cichlids, and i am 100% that mine are rainbow cichlids |
10-05-2007 22:36 by paul stevens
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I think they are neons... |
10-05-2007 22:44 by curviceps
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I have put think and looks like, because Viejas/Paratheraps crossbreed very easily, I am leaning more towards fenestratum. The pic of the rainbow posted, looks like a rainbow not getting enough vegetable matter in its diet, should be a lot brighter than that. I have kept rainbows and seen spawning rainbows, they look nothing like the pics from tracyanne. |
10-05-2007 22:48 by telboy
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id say juv; synspilum,just before they colour up, deff not rainbows as far too big + also rainbows more colourful,neither are they blackbelts,the band is vertical on b/belts i think[lol] |
10-05-2007 22:51 by netty d
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fgs tracy, will you have a look on the net and compare ?........lolol |
11-05-2007 11:13 by Woz
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right people, one of my lfs had them in a couple of weeks ago and they looked exactly the same as those in question, so ill go their tomorrow and get a name for you as i cant remember, by that time youll have probably figured it out, but im going anyway |
11-05-2007 14:39 by tracyanne
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they look like rainbows has by the picture by ste they are baby ones same markings i agree with u netty rainbow fish and thanks for singing the theme tune bungle i thought u were paul stevens must ba a twin lol |
11-05-2007 15:24 by PaddyD
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They are definateley from the Vija group - May be a hybrid. I think they look quite like fenestratum - but do not have enough red round the jaw...
I would say V.hartwegi????
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11-05-2007 15:34 by Ste
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Here is a pic of my male synspilum hope it helps
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11-05-2007 15:35 by jonie
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Not rainbow cichlids AFAIK
as PaddyD says they look like hartwegi
below is a hartwegi and they look very similar
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11-05-2007 15:36 by jonie
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Ste,they do look similair to yours though |
11-05-2007 15:59 by tracyanne
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i still go with rainbow cichlids |
11-05-2007 16:05 by jonie
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nope, not close tracy, here is a rainbow cichlid
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11-05-2007 16:10 by tracyanne
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ok that looks diferent to the one that ste put up |
11-05-2007 16:10 by PaddyD
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Definately not H.multispinosa. The most obvious diffence its the spot nead the caudal fin of a Rainbow Cichlid, This is absent on your specimen, but there are a lot of diffences.
All vieja look similar as young - they all grow big 8-15" depending on species.
But Synspilium is fairly easy to spot - it is a deeper bodied fish than most of the others. I dont think it is a synspilium.
Look at the following:
V. fenestratum
V. Zonatum (Guttulatum)
V. hartwegi
But they are very variable between individuals - getting a positive ID when they are young may be difficult. Good luck and be prepared for a BIG fish.
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11-05-2007 16:11 by jonie
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yeah, probs will get 12" plus tracy |
11-05-2007 16:20 by tracyanne
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another i dont know what they are
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11-05-2007 16:21 by tracyanne
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its a fish lol |
11-05-2007 16:32 by netty d
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am sticking with rainbows |
11-05-2007 16:34 by tracyanne
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i agree rainbows ive called em bungle and zippy |
11-05-2007 16:49 by PaddyD
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Hmmnn, will still try and change your mind.
Here is a pic of Vieja zonatum to compare with yours:
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11-05-2007 17:32 by Ste
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follow this link it has a picture of a rainbow cichlid in one of my tanks http://www.aquarist-classifieds.co.uk/forum/viewtopic_56556.php |
11-05-2007 17:34 by Ste
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HERE IT IS
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11-05-2007 17:40 by paul stevens
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Steve is that right what i here that your starting marines up. |
11-05-2007 19:40 by tracyanne
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paddy d spot on a pair what the englsh name im female dont forget lol |
11-05-2007 19:42 by tracyanne
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cheers guys i think they are vieja zonatum hip hip horay ................... |
11-05-2007 20:09 by Jim Son
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so we all finally agreed they not rainbows, hoo-ray |
11-05-2007 22:29 by scott-the-sev
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Someone mentioned Bifaciatus I think you can count them out this is one of mine .
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11-05-2007 22:34 by scott-the-sev
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This is a male(rear red) and female(blurry front) rainbow in breeding colours of mine . It is deff not a rainbow hope this help's
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12-05-2007 11:42 by jonie
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yup, zonatum i'd say now |
12-05-2007 13:41 by curviceps
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Zonatum is a possiblity, still leaning towards a fene possibly fene cross. The problem with Viejas is the number of crosses out there being sold as true species, making it all the harder to ID them. But yet again, the fish are definitely not rainbows. |
12-05-2007 14:36 by tracyanne
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cheers for ya help there on ebay as unidentified fish i got them didnt know what they were lovely colours |
13-05-2007 15:28 by PaddyD
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I would label them as Vieja sp. as they are those without doubt, and at least this tells prospective buyers what the fish is likely to behave like and size.
But I agree with Curviceps that it could be a fene cross, I would not put money on zonatum |
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