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Posted fao netty d
10-05-2007
18:51 by tracyanne
here ya go about 7 inch male female 5 inch a guess
10-05-2007
18:52 by tracyanne
here is one
10-05-2007
18:53 by tracyanne
here is male
10-05-2007
18:53 by netty d
ta darlin, they look like rainbows, i been looking for a male for yonks
10-05-2007
18:53 by tracyanne
face
10-05-2007
18:54 by netty d
yep deffo rainbows
10-05-2007
18:55 by tracyanne
they have had young but they got sucked in under the under gravel
10-05-2007
18:56 by telboy
not rainbows netty
10-05-2007
18:56 by tracyanne
well if ya intreasted in em let us know has there on ebay . let us know
10-05-2007
18:57 by netty d
i have a pair already, but am convinced there lesbos.....
10-05-2007
18:58 by tracyanne
lol
10-05-2007
18:58 by netty d
there the same rainbows as mine tel and the same as the ones that were on ebay last week
10-05-2007
18:58 by telboy
aint that the 1 i gave kev ?[pic2]
10-05-2007
18:58 by tracyanne
we have no clue what they are we thought black belts but not
10-05-2007
18:59 by tracyanne
they were similare but he was agressive to theses ones so my baby brothers got him in his tank
10-05-2007
20:01 by curviceps
Def not rainbows, possibly a fenestratum?
10-05-2007
20:13 by Jim Son
not rainbows as already stated
10-05-2007
20:20 by paul stevens
Up above the streets and houses rainbows climbing high everyone can see the rainbow in the skys....

Anyone remember that.
10-05-2007
20:43 by big cats
zippy was cool? in a weird way? if these are juvenile could be bifasciatum? they are not unlike synspilum. if they are fully grown then buggered if i know
10-05-2007
21:07 by netty d
lol paul, we aint all as old as you and if you type in rainbow chiclids on your search bar and look at different sites, i'm sure you will see the similarities ?. They look different on each site.....hence rainbow cichlid ? They differ in every region due to water quality. I may be wrong, but they are deffo like mine and mine are 100% rainbow cichlids
10-05-2007
21:14 by curviceps
The fish in those pics are only half grown, they are def not Herotilapia multisponosa.
10-05-2007
21:16 by curviceps
Sorry meant to say, they are either Veijas or Paratheraps of some sort.
10-05-2007
21:22 by netty d
Rainbow Cichlid (Herotilapia multispinosa) ......... Herotilapia multispinosa ''Rainbow Cichlid'' hope they work as links......
10-05-2007
21:22 by paul stevens
I know what they are they are fish....
10-05-2007
21:23 by netty d
naaaaa.....lol, copy and paste them, see what you think
10-05-2007
21:24 by netty d
paul......they are deffo fish (i know this as they are pictured in water)
10-05-2007
21:34 by curviceps
Look at the sizes quoted for Rainbows, the sizes quoted in first post are bigger than that. There are similarities in the stripe, but Rainbows should be a lot more yellow than those fish are. I have kept rainbows before, and have kept a few Veijas, I can only offer my opinion based on my own experiences with these species.
10-05-2007
21:41 by Ste
They are cichlasoma synspilum young . Rainbows are brown with a black stripe and more rounded in the face
10-05-2007
21:44 by Ste
his is a rainbow cichlid
10-05-2007
21:51 by netty d
that's a bad pic of a rainbow.....there are better sites with better pics
10-05-2007
21:52 by curviceps
Could be Vieja synspila
10-05-2007
22:03 by big cats
curviseps and ste are most likely not wrong vieja is simply a newer name than the good old cichlosoma. they are possibly synspilus (synspilum) but could be bifasciatum as synspilum are very similar (usually have a more red face? though)
10-05-2007
22:13 by Jim Son
looks like this could be a long night...
10-05-2007
22:16 by paul stevens
Well if netty d has anything to do with it it will.....
10-05-2007
22:20 by netty d
lmao paul, what ya trying to say all i've seen so far is "it looks like"...."i think".....anyone really know what they are ?.....cos there the double of my rainbow cichlids, and i am 100% that mine are rainbow cichlids
10-05-2007
22:36 by paul stevens
I think they are neons...
10-05-2007
22:44 by curviceps
I have put think and looks like, because Viejas/Paratheraps crossbreed very easily, I am leaning more towards fenestratum. The pic of the rainbow posted, looks like a rainbow not getting enough vegetable matter in its diet, should be a lot brighter than that. I have kept rainbows and seen spawning rainbows, they look nothing like the pics from tracyanne.
10-05-2007
22:48 by telboy
id say juv; synspilum,just before they colour up, deff not rainbows as far too big + also rainbows more colourful,neither are they blackbelts,the band is vertical on b/belts i think[lol]
10-05-2007
22:51 by netty d
fgs tracy, will you have a look on the net and compare ?........lolol
11-05-2007
11:13 by Woz
right people, one of my lfs had them in a couple of weeks ago and they looked exactly the same as those in question, so ill go their tomorrow and get a name for you as i cant remember, by that time youll have probably figured it out, but im going anyway
11-05-2007
14:39 by tracyanne
they look like rainbows has by the picture by ste they are baby ones same markings i agree with u netty rainbow fish and thanks for singing the theme tune bungle i thought u were paul stevens must ba a twin lol
11-05-2007
15:24 by PaddyD
They are definateley from the Vija group - May be a hybrid. I think they look quite like fenestratum - but do not have enough red round the jaw...

I would say V.hartwegi????

11-05-2007
15:34 by Ste
Here is a pic of my male synspilum hope it helps
11-05-2007
15:35 by jonie
Not rainbow cichlids AFAIK


as PaddyD says they look like hartwegi
below is a hartwegi and they look very similar
11-05-2007
15:36 by jonie
Ste,they do look similair to yours though
11-05-2007
15:59 by tracyanne
i still go with rainbow cichlids
11-05-2007
16:05 by jonie
nope, not close tracy, here is a rainbow cichlid
11-05-2007
16:10 by tracyanne
ok that looks diferent to the one that ste put up
11-05-2007
16:10 by PaddyD
Definately not H.multispinosa. The most obvious diffence its the spot nead the caudal fin of a Rainbow Cichlid, This is absent on your specimen, but there are a lot of diffences.

All vieja look similar as young - they all grow big 8-15" depending on species.

But Synspilium is fairly easy to spot - it is a deeper bodied fish than most of the others. I dont think it is a synspilium.

Look at the following:

V. fenestratum
V. Zonatum (Guttulatum)
V. hartwegi

But they are very variable between individuals - getting a positive ID when they are young may be difficult. Good luck and be prepared for a BIG fish.

11-05-2007
16:11 by jonie
yeah, probs will get 12" plus tracy
11-05-2007
16:20 by tracyanne
another i dont know what they are
11-05-2007
16:21 by tracyanne
its a fish lol
11-05-2007
16:32 by netty d
am sticking with rainbows
11-05-2007
16:34 by tracyanne
i agree rainbows ive called em bungle and zippy
11-05-2007
16:49 by PaddyD
Hmmnn, will still try and change your mind.

Here is a pic of Vieja zonatum to compare with yours:

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11-05-2007
17:32 by Ste
follow this link it has a picture of a rainbow cichlid in one of my tanks http://www.aquarist-classifieds.co.uk/forum/viewtopic_56556.php
11-05-2007
17:34 by Ste
HERE IT IS
11-05-2007
17:40 by paul stevens
Steve is that right what i here that your starting marines up.
11-05-2007
19:40 by tracyanne
paddy d spot on a pair what the englsh name im female dont forget lol
11-05-2007
19:42 by tracyanne
cheers guys i think they are vieja zonatum hip hip horay ...................
11-05-2007
20:09 by Jim Son
so we all finally agreed they not rainbows, hoo-ray
11-05-2007
22:29 by scott-the-sev
Someone mentioned Bifaciatus I think you can count them out this is one of mine .
11-05-2007
22:34 by scott-the-sev
This is a male(rear red) and female(blurry front) rainbow in breeding colours of mine . It is deff not a rainbow hope this help's
12-05-2007
11:42 by jonie
yup, zonatum i'd say now
12-05-2007
13:41 by curviceps
Zonatum is a possiblity, still leaning towards a fene possibly fene cross. The problem with Viejas is the number of crosses out there being sold as true species, making it all the harder to ID them. But yet again, the fish are definitely not rainbows.
12-05-2007
14:36 by tracyanne
cheers for ya help there on ebay as unidentified fish i got them didnt know what they were lovely colours
13-05-2007
15:28 by PaddyD
I would label them as Vieja sp. as they are those without doubt, and at least this tells prospective buyers what the fish is likely to behave like and size.

But I agree with Curviceps that it could be a fene cross, I would not put money on zonatum
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