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| Posted | red belly piranha and feeder fish |
| 01-06-2007 18:45 by northendelight |
i really don't want to start any arguements but i'm after some opinions on this subject. i've recently inherited my sister in laws piranha who has been fed feeder fish once a month. i'm uncertain on whether to continue this. can i have some honest opinions with out a heated debate?? |
| 01-06-2007 18:49 by JP |
In my opinion there's nothing wrong with feeding feeder fish, But i would be easier to get them on frozen |
| 01-06-2007 18:51 by JP |
Sorry read your post wrong, If they are eating frozen foods ect already then there's no need to fed live fish |
| 01-06-2007 18:56 by northendelight |
thanks jp. just been reading some of the other posts on here and it seems to be a very sore subject, to be honest i think i'd be too much of a girl to do it anyway! |
| 01-06-2007 19:00 by alan.f |
well as piranha are predators the feeder fish are probably good exercise for them and keep there hunting senses alert  |
| 01-06-2007 19:12 by -Rob C- |
I personally don't think it's necessary to feed live fish with some many other options available. Plus if it's already eating non-live food why waste money on live food? |
| 01-06-2007 19:30 by Jim Son |
nothing wrong with it, chuck in as many feeder fish as you can get your hands on and watch it, can be great fun and the fish love it to (well not the feeders)  |
| 01-06-2007 19:31 by Jim Son |
feeder fish once a month you say northendelight, do the Piranhas a favour and increase that |
| 01-06-2007 21:06 by netty d |
Some fish breed like rabbits and the only thing you can use them for is feeder fish, why not i say........gawd, have i just agreed with jim  |
| 01-06-2007 21:50 by big cats |
i believe most piranha are fin nippers and scavengers rather than out and out hunters,however as with any predator the instinct is to kill so you will be benefiting the fish by emulating its natural behaviour . the practice of feeding feeders to fish is very common in the usa but is frowned upon here.if you are doing it to benefit the fish and not to get cheap thrills or impress your mates then why not .if it helps your conscience, for every koi that finds its way to a pond, tens of thousands are lifted from the vat and discarded to die? however piranha are schooling fish keeping one on its own? ,i am not sure feeding it live food once a month is gonna be that advantageous |
| 01-06-2007 22:14 by telboy |
here we go again |
| 01-06-2007 22:19 by paul stevens |
Te he he i think it sucks and all you gits that think its ok well what can i say.... |
| 01-06-2007 22:47 by Jim Son |
netty d, you always agreed with me, but too stubborn to admit it, thats fine though, sometimes a man needs to be put in his place by a good woman 
this thread will be full of the nancy boy intellectuals by the morning and well done big cats, as usuall why so why say 10 words when you can say 180 (the new Alan )
now sing with me are you Alan... in disguise are you Alan, Are you Alan ARE YOU ALAN..... IN DISGUISE |
| 01-06-2007 22:52 by Jim Son |
Telboy is your "here we go again" in reference to
1. the thread on feeder fish 2. Alan Big Cats comment 3. you just saw Brazil equalise |
| 01-06-2007 22:54 by Jim Son |
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| 01-06-2007 23:13 by telboy |
this thread jimson, its been done n done n done n done,and as for "nancy boy intelectuals" would ya catergorise me,paul,wayne + many more members who disagree with feeding livefoods nancyboy intellectuals?doesnt appeal to me 1 little bit,why pay for a live fish just to chuck it in a tank + watch it get munched by another fish when its not necessaary?smacks of pitbull owners to me |
| 02-06-2007 00:04 by Jim Son |
now now, i didnt say any one in particular was nancy boy intellectual did i? i could even be one myself for all you know! i just not an intellectual 
everyones got their own opinion on this, just a bit of fun really, its pure humour to me, i am not actually here for serious debate really, oh the knives will be out now i guess! |
| 02-06-2007 00:10 by Jim Son |
its disgusting all this feeder fish talk i am with you telboy, it should banned, i've changed my mind on it now, its wrong |
| 02-06-2007 10:27 by big cats |
no,i am not alan? who is alan anyway,may i apologies for my long answers ,but sometimes you have to justify what you say,unlike telboy who just writes "smacks of pitbull owners to me" how many people do you know with pitbulls? and how many of them feed them live animals? the" nancy boy intellectual" comment was equally unhelpful why should a sensible debate turn in to a slagging match
i am scottish and a bit of a softy so i would not pay to watch some poor goldfish get bitten in half by another fish,but MAY consider feeding useless fry rather than flushing them down the loo. |
| 02-06-2007 11:20 by Jim Son |
no fair point big cats i agree, will being silly. The points you raise are quite valid actually. I'd had a bit too much to drink in honesty |
| 02-06-2007 12:29 by telboy |
big cats, "calm down, calm down"my remark wasn't aimed at you big boy,just a generalisation, as most folk who keep piranhas etc do so as a penile extention + enjoy showing their pals the macho " watch my fish masacre this helpless fish that has no chance of escape"afterall in the wild the prey fish does have a chance to escape does it not? + anyway most piranha shoals will eat only sick + dieing fish or even the less fit fish in their shoal |
| 02-06-2007 19:59 by Woz |
not big and not clever to feed them live foods, some sick people get inpressed by it buts its not pretty to watch especially when people put goldfish in the tank that are bigger than the pirahnas i kept pirahnas for a couple of years and never fed them another fish and they were very healthy fish until we had a bottle of aftershave knocked into the tank, then they werent so healthy...butttt.....i have another issue with this, when feeding frozen food, do you actually think the fish died of "old age"....or something along them lines....no, they were probably dragged out the water and left to die in pain, in my opinion quite possibly in more pain than it would be in if it got swallowed in one by a pirahna...anyway to finish off, i dont agree with feeders but you have to consider how the frozen fish came to their end...easier just not to keep the things |
| 02-06-2007 20:17 by big cats |
almost every food item was alive at some point, i used to feed my red tail on trout that had died on a fish farm, but not everyone can do this ,even pellet food and flake has its origins in living things, where do you draw the line? |
| 02-06-2007 20:31 by Woz |
exactly, its naive to think that its not happening just because you are not the one sticking the knife in, by buying frozen foods you might as well have killed the fish yourself, its just wether or not you can bring yourself to do such a thing |
| 04-06-2007 08:58 by Alan |
Piranha are opportunist predators and scavengers feeding of live foods is completely unnecessary with Piranha and puts the health of the piranha at risk from pathogens better to feed frozen foods. |
| 04-06-2007 09:03 by Alan |
One other thing don't even think about putting more piranha with this solitary one chances are it will attack and kill them. They are shoaling fish but it is very difficult to replicate a shoal in the average sized home aquarium unless they are grown on together in a group. |
| 05-06-2007 09:59 by Woz |
good point alan |
| 05-06-2007 12:02 by Alan |
Big cats personally I think humane killing of fish or other animals for fish food and the like is far more tolerable than throwing a live fish into a tank with piranha or whatever so it can be eaten alive.
I draw the analagy that we as humans are omnivores having a requirement for meat in our diets (I'm talking how we have evolved not forced diets such as those of vegans and veges). Would you expect or be happy to go to the supermarket and buy a cow to take home and put in the garden to slaughter yourself at a later date in a manor that would not be nearly as efficient and humane as a slaughter house? Personally I would rather leave it to the slaughter house at least the animal will be dispatched quickly and as humanely as possible. My personal opinion of course each to their own. |
| 06-06-2007 06:27 by commissar |
what you all forget is its illeagal to knowingly cause harm to a living animal under the animal welfare act and that includes the feeding of live fish in the uk
it also comes under duty of care if a shop knowingly sells fish to be used as live food they can be prosecuted for failing to follow the duty of care as they knowingly sold it to be harmed |
| 06-06-2007 09:30 by Woz |
only legal if the fish completely refuses to eat any other foods apart from live, then exceptions can be made.....but if the pirahna is getting fed livefoods once a month, then it should be eating a frozen counterpart |
| 06-06-2007 11:17 by curviceps |
Glad to see the comments advocating feeding "dead" food, for whatever reason, there seems to be a growing trend in people wanting to feed live feeders. Feeders, as some of said, are occasionally needed for some species, but most can be weaned off. |
| 06-06-2007 19:21 by northendelight |
thanks everyone. i have been feeding him froozen food and little titbits of prawn and lean chicken so i really don't think i'll bother with feeder fish. it doesn't seem worth it to me as he is on his own and personally i don't think i cold do it as i really like my fish!! |
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