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| Posted | Tanks on floorboards |
| 09-07-2007 17:57 by scott_91 |
Iv been trying to convinse my mum to let me get a bigger tank in the living room but it failed, so i thought about putting a tank in my bedroom but it will be on floorboards, so i am a bit cautious about it, im looking to put a 150 to 200 litre one in my room for south american cichlids.
Is anybody on here a builder or know anything about this sought of stuff? as far as i know the housed is about 40 years old. |
| 09-07-2007 18:11 by Lnrak |
I would definately place it over a supporting wall - maybe spread the weight over a solid surface & keep your fingers crossed!! |
| 09-07-2007 18:11 by Lnrak |
Preferably a smaller tank though.... |
| 09-07-2007 18:41 by bluboy |
if u can put it so that the stand runs with as many joists under it. at 1 point i had about 310 litres of water above the living room. |
| 09-07-2007 20:06 by Woz |
if you ruin your house from my advise i take no responsibility  |
| 09-07-2007 20:06 by Woz |
ive got a 180litre in my bedroom , the house is about 40yrs old, but its best if you dont put all the weight on the floor, mine is also screwed to the wall to spread the weight..if you cant screw it to the wall, i wouldnt think 180litres would do any harm on just a normal stand...think of the weight of other things upstairs, such as the bath etc etc |
| 09-07-2007 20:29 by mwilde |
Volume of water 200 l./43.99 gal.(52.83 US gal.)
Water weight 200 kg/440.92 lbs Or another words 31 and a half stone. As long as you spread the weight out it should be fine. Just think....Would a big fat 32 stone fella stood on one leg go through your floor boards - probably not! |
| 09-07-2007 20:31 by mwilde |
Just wait till your mum is admiring your fish, and then say something like "Look mum, if i had a bigger tank it could be so much nicer...etc etc" Works with my wife every time. LOL |
| 09-07-2007 20:32 by robert.pope |
however a bath is not filled 24-7 do the right thing and tell your folks to move
I have a 150 litre tank in our upstairs flat against a solid chimney stack wall......im sure it would be ok upto 150 litres..... still respect your mums decision  |
| 09-07-2007 20:40 by Woz |
good point about the bath, i dont think it would be a problem ive heard of much bigger tanks being kept without even being bolted to the wall |
| 09-07-2007 20:42 by mwilde |
How would bolting it to the wall help?
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| 09-07-2007 21:24 by scott_91 |
Thanks for all of your advise but im still not sure because i could just imagine what would happen if that thing went through the roof... she would literally kill me. And speaking to her shes pretty set on that it wont hold and as yet im not going to argue with her, i want to stay in her good books if im going to get a new tank. |
| 09-07-2007 21:27 by tank busters |
i had a 4x2x2 on floorboards upstairs with no probs |
| 09-07-2007 21:38 by scott_91 |
I wouldnt have to resort to this but the tank in my living room is 81x31x41cm so i asked if i could go slightly bigger at 101x50x41cm which gives me like another 80 litres but she said " i dont know that ones taking up enough room " thats just un-reasonable, i meen whats 20cm extra? |
| 09-07-2007 21:39 by -Rob C- |
Well if Woz's calculations are right then it would say be two 12 stone people and a 10 stone person. If they stood on the area that the tank would be I doubt the floorboards would give in. Aslong as yu spread the weight over as many joists as you can you'll be fine. |
| 09-07-2007 21:40 by Danny Boy |
bear in mind that your house is 40 yrs old so it'll have 5x2 joists i used that size to make a tank stand for my 7ft tank. my whole tank is held up with two of those. the inherent strength is massive. as long as you run the tank in the same direction as your floorboards and dont put it in the middle of the room (which would still be ok, imagine a cupboard full of clothes, a settee with four people in the middle of the room, would you worry about that falling in? thats about 2 ton easy, never gonna happen) id put a 6x2x2 up there without hesitation. incidentally i am a builder. |
| 09-07-2007 21:46 by tony |
i had a n 8x2x2 in a house with floorboards and a cellar underneath had no probs i put tank across joists like others have said |
| 09-07-2007 21:57 by scott_91 |
thanks, im convinsed, now i just have to make my mum agree now, which could be a difficult task.
To be honest i never doubted that it would be ok because iv got a 77x32x177cm shelving which has; 60x30x30 cm tank on the bottom 100+ Dvd's on the second shelf 40+ Xbox Games on shelf three and a petrol rc car and loads of spare parts on the top ( which is fairly heavy ) So i bet that all of that *** weighs a fair amount when you thinks its all on a 77x32cm base. And i have a 45x30x30cm tank next to this shelving so thats quite alot of weight in a 4ft area. |
| 10-07-2007 09:54 by Alan |
One thing to check is that the joists are going in to the wall and are not supported by metal joist hangers instead. It wouldn't matter how big the joists are if they are supported with metal joist hangers as these would be the weak point.
My Dad had a colleague that made this mistake he was an IT bod at an engineering firm after numerous serious chats about what he had done he got a structural surveyor in who made it quite clear the tank should be move immediately. Assuming the joists go into the walls make sure the load is spread evenly over the floor boards by placing a large piece of timber or an mdf board underneath so you don't have high pressure points. Just think how much more it would hurt if someone stepped on your foot wearing stillettos as opposed to trainers you have to consider the pounds per square inch factor I would probably trst the joists but not necessarily the floor boards especially if it was a metal legged stand. |
| 10-07-2007 09:59 by Danny Boy |
alan i think your view on joist hangers is mis informed, they have to meet building reg requirements. there isnt an issue with weight there |
| 10-07-2007 10:04 by D.R. |
Pretty much as the other peeps have said.
Your water tank in the attic is around 60 -80 gallon, same joists in the attic that are in you floor boards. So long as the air vents on the exterior of the house have not been blocked up there shouldnt be any probs. Safe as Houses..... pardon the pun |
| 10-07-2007 10:40 by perky |
Just look at it this way just think of tanbuster laying in hes bath full of water he has no problems with hes floorboards  just the water over flowing when he gets in it... |
| 10-07-2007 11:29 by p1nky |
You trying to say tank busters is a BIG boy  |
| 10-07-2007 11:38 by telboy |
meeow...mr piggy, hows that house of straw or was it sticks or maybe stone?im a huffing n a puffing piggy gonna blow ya house in...OINK OINK! |
| 10-07-2007 13:59 by tucker |
make sure the stand legs are over a joist and not the floor board,if they dont work in put the stand on skids(pieces of wood that will spread the weight),you will no where the joist is as its where the floor boards have been nailed |
| 10-07-2007 14:50 by Cichlid Fury |
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| 10-07-2007 16:52 by p1nky |
@ telboy, i'm gonna miss this name when a certain person gets their own name back |
| 10-07-2007 18:00 by telboy |
what ya mean ya not actually a likkle piggy? |
| 10-07-2007 19:00 by Woz |
mwilde, bolting it to the wall will help spread the weight so its not all on one pressure point...pinky n perky, which ones which i forgot |
| 10-07-2007 21:44 by p1nky |
It's a good job I LOVE YOU terry |
| 10-07-2007 22:07 by sonia |
who r u? |
| 10-07-2007 23:40 by perky |
Yes who are you p1nky... |
| 11-07-2007 00:01 by sonia |
perks?
who r u? |
| 11-07-2007 07:01 by p1nky |
knew that would give you a hint perky |
| 11-07-2007 09:35 by Alan |
Danny boy I'm only going on comments from a structural engineer I know nothing personally but I trust engineers to know their stuff. |
| 11-07-2007 19:37 by Woz |
shut it you numptys who ever you are |
| 11-07-2007 19:43 by perky |
Oi wozuck... |
| 11-07-2007 19:59 by p1nky |
Charming were's the sense of humour these days or they all too young to remember pinky and perky |
| 11-07-2007 22:46 by Woz |
only messing luv u really |
| 11-07-2007 22:50 by perky |
remember the pinky and perky but i dont no the p[color=red]1[/color]nky and perky tho... |
| 12-07-2007 18:23 by p1nky |
ere, that almost makes sense |
| 15-07-2007 10:33 by tracyanne |
all i can say yes kev is a big boy lol . my suggestion is what when people have water beds they hold upto 200 gallons of water and people still buy them and even when they have jacuzzis as well |
| 15-07-2007 10:34 by tracyanne |
tell ya mum ya want a water bed . if she agrees then tell her thats over 200 gallons there good luck anyway .............. |
| 15-07-2007 18:57 by netty d |
good idea tracy |
| 17-07-2007 11:37 by tracyanne |
lol thanks netty . |
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