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20-07-2007 20:52 by Bethan	HELP I HAVE A FISH AND I DONT KNOW WHAT HE IS.PLEASE HELP THANK YOU
20-07-2007 20:54 by Bethan	PLEASE HELP ME FIND WHAT TYPE OF FISH I HAVE. IN THE PICTURE HE IS ABOUT 7 MONTHS OLD.PLEASE HELP
20-07-2007 21:03 by robert.pope	where did he come from ? did you breed it? possably a cross breed im sure some others like telboy might know
20-07-2007 21:10 by Linda Chenapa	i think you will find it's a red devil , they are not always red all over and will get a hump on its head if it has'nt all ready if it's a male
20-07-2007 21:23 by Bethan	I bought them they were sold to me as Maalawi fry
20-07-2007 21:24 by Bethan	Linda he does look as if he is getting a hump
20-07-2007 21:25 by Bethan	How do I get in touch with telboy
20-07-2007 21:30 by Woz	doesnt look like anything malawi to me!? it does have a red devil image, but id say its abit too elongated for a young red devil,....whats it personality like beth,,agressive, soft etc etc ??
20-07-2007 21:31 by Woz	anyway ive never seen anything like it before..
20-07-2007 21:51 by WAYNE	red devil/midas
20-07-2007 21:58 by Bethan	He is the top fish in the tank and he guards his part of the tank
20-07-2007 22:00 by Woz	yeh waynes right ...dont know where malawi came from
20-07-2007 22:06 by Bethan	Thank you all very much.
20-07-2007 22:07 by jonie	More than likely a hybrid between citrinellus and Labiatus
20-07-2007 22:46 by telboy	red devil, nice looking fish that gimmee gimmee gimmee
21-07-2007 01:42 by Danny Boy	looks like a malawi cross breed to me. wrong shape to be a red devil.
21-07-2007 09:39 by WAYNE	you can see a bit of parrot fish in it ,which is a cross of a red devil/midas
21-07-2007 09:49 by bolty	That is a Red Devil Midas mix, they get big and nasty good luck!
21-07-2007 11:17 by tank busters	midas/red devil
21-07-2007 17:10 by curviceps	I'd go for a mix as well, lips don't look big enough to be pure RD
21-07-2007 17:30 by Bethan	Hello Telboy I have 7 of them if you would like 2 your welcome to have them. Thank you Bethan
21-07-2007 17:33 by Bethan	They are NOT aggressive they are living with Geophagus Brasiliensis for the last 7 months with no trouble at all. And they are much bigger than the Geos.Thanks again Bethan
21-07-2007 18:00 by telboy	where are you bethan?
21-07-2007 20:31 by bolty	Bethan i had 1 from an inch in with a marbled pim, 4x pictus and a male jag, pim was the size of the devil pictus was half the size and the jag was a little bigger, all was in with each other well over a year then turned on the light 1 morning (devil was about 10inches) the jag,pim and 2of the 4 pictus was chewed 2 bits !!DEAD!! it might take a while but you will be saying I was right, you'll see im the end! mike tyson was not a killer at the age of 5!
21-07-2007 21:13 by sonia	i agree with Danny Boy that fish is NOT a red devil or midas or red devil / midas cross, Bethan whoever told you it was "malawi fry" is probably more correct than a lot of people on this thread here.
21-07-2007 21:54 by Bethan	Hello Telboy I live in Wrexham, North Wales.
21-07-2007 21:56 by sonia	21-07-2007 17:33 by Bethan They are NOT aggressive they are living with Geophagus Brasiliensis for the last 7 months with no trouble at all. And they are much bigger than the Geos.Thanks again Bethan the above adds futher substance to Danny Boys post this fish is simply NOT a red devil or Midas or a Red Devil/Midas cross
21-07-2007 22:04 by WAYNE	what are you talking about thier is nothing malawi about that fish definatly an american cichlid , what malawi cichlid does it represent ?? big eyes big lips , red devil/midas
21-07-2007 22:10 by telboy	sonia ya wrong id say its deffo a red devil maybe mixed but deffo not malawi
21-07-2007 22:10 by telboy	sonia ya wrong id say its deffo a red devil maybe mixed but deffo not malawi
21-07-2007 22:14 by telboy	bethan im coming upto wales in a few weeks, going to prestatyn maybe pop in on my way home
21-07-2007 22:19 by Bethan	Look forward to seeing you.Bethan
21-07-2007 22:24 by telboy	you dont work for harris lipman do ya?
21-07-2007 22:42 by sonia	i am sorry but since when is a Red Devil that shaped and that slim, you are spending too much time looking at its eyes and mouth, what about its body? which is basically 80% of the fish. Ask this question on a specialist cichlid forum or a forum with more knowledgable members (sorry no offence but this forum is for a limited few only.......... no way thats a red devil or a midas, no way
21-07-2007 23:33 by Woz	ive gota agree with wayne, theirs just nothing malawi about it. the face has nothing malawi in it what so ever...the fins are different to anything malawi....no eggspots( even females will normally have small faint ones) and there are also very few malawi fish with orange colours like that and i cant even think of any which have as much white in it as that accept anything albino( and there not albino colours really) also most malawi fish have underlying colours...that fish also has none...im still not 100% what it is but id go for the red devil/midas above all other suggestions
21-07-2007 23:47 by sonia	true true Woz, but come one with the egg spot comments, how many malawi fish have egg spots, thats a ridculous way to assume this fish is "not malawi". In a highly stocked malawi tank you may only get 10% of them of them with egg spots, so "no egg spots" dont rule out malawi. No offence to anyone, but if Bethan really wants to ID that fish she needs to post it on a more specialised cichlid forum. like you said earlier Woz about "elongated" come on!! this fish is WAY too elongated to be a Red Devil or Midas, and frankly i am shocked people are saying its a Red Devil or Midas. As for "what Malawi" is it, if its malawi god only knows what it is, the malawi trade is completely flooded with hybrids that will NEVER be able to be truly identified.
22-07-2007 00:35 by tank busters	red devil/midas
22-07-2007 00:54 by telboy	its the way the pics been taken, red devils come in various colours + shapes check this site out http://www.midas-cichlid.com/midas_pictures.html
22-07-2007 07:51 by darren	22:42 by sonia i am sorry but since when is a Red Devil that shaped and that slim, you are spending too much time looking at its eyes and mouth, what about its body? which is basically 80% of the fish. Ask this question on a specialist cichlid forum or a forum with more knowledgable members (sorry no offence but this forum is for a limited few only.......... no way thats a red devil or a midas, no way I would put a months wages on it being a Citrinellum/Labiatus hybrid,they start off this shape and develop depth later on Both sexes can aquire the nauchal hump but males usually get it when paired up with a female I have had s""" loads of "Midas" in my time and this is defo another one
22-07-2007 09:30 by tank busters	top man darren just confirming wat we already no
22-07-2007 10:34 by Woz	the point i made about eggspots was not a ment to be a fact, meaning it isnt malawi, it was just something to add to my argument, either way im still saying it isnt malawi
22-07-2007 10:53 by chris platts	It is a tank bred Labiatus Cichlid or possibly Hybridization has occurred between a Citrinellum.I am 100% positive it is not a Malawi and anybody who thinks that needs to get there eyes tested!
22-07-2007 13:08 by Bethan	telboy harris lipman whose he Bethan
22-07-2007 13:09 by Bethan	I will take more picyures of them all that might help?
22-07-2007 15:16 by telboy	bethan thats who i work for we gotta branch in cardiff with a bethan, i know cardiff + wrexham are 2 diff places but put 2+2 together + got 5 again,just a thought
22-07-2007 16:47 by Bethan	No problem by the way my fish are red devils. I have seen a picture of them when they were babies and adults.In an advert on this site.The small fish were what they looked like before they began to grow. So thanks a lot you were right.
22-07-2007 16:48 by Bethan	Is there anyway of sexing these please. Thanks again
22-07-2007 16:57 by bolty	Darren, to say go to a fourm where there is more knowledgable members, the out-come will be the same (some will say this others will say that!) BUT with the added posts along the lines of "DONT IMPULSE BUY" or "RESEARCH BEFOR YOU BUY A FISH SO YOU NO WHAT TO EXPECT" but what ever im easy its not a red devil or midas its a giant whit neon with orange markings
22-07-2007 17:40 by darren	I did'nt say it Bolty,fead it again mate
22-07-2007 17:41 by darren	*READ,sorry
22-07-2007 21:30 by bolty	Not sure how you was meaning by this "no way thats a red devil or a midas"? it got me a little confused? but I will say I did not Fead this bit "I would put a months wages on it being a Citrinellum/Labiatus hybrid" not sure if your saying it is a RD/MIDAS or not? but you did say "Ask this question on a specialist cichlid forum or a forum with more knowledgable members" have a Fead of this http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81659
22-07-2007 22:14 by darren	bolty,read the post by Sonia at 22,42,those are her words mate,not mine
22-07-2007 22:34 by Woz	i cant spell
22-07-2007 22:34 by Woz	haha...your words darren, you cant take it back now youve been court out!!
22-07-2007 23:07 by -Rob C-	Ha Woz, you can't read. It's not Darren's words at all, he copied what Sonia had said. Christ I worry about some people.
23-07-2007 01:49 by curviceps	Having read through this again, after reading sonias post, sorry, don't know a lot of the guys on this, but I know of Darren and Telboy, they know their cichlids. No need to go to a more specialised forum, there are plenty of guys here who can recognise an RD or RDx when they see it.
23-07-2007 06:53 by darren	20 years of experience counts for something then,lol
23-07-2007 15:48 by Ed	Red devil x,give it time it will kill everything else in the tank and sonia you sound like a real babe?.
23-07-2007 16:54 by bolty	22-07-2007 22:14 by darren bolty,read the post by Sonia at 22,42,those are her words mate,not mine GOD THEY NEED A QUOTE BOX ON HERE! lol I see how your saying it now
26-07-2007 06:47 by Woz	i was actually being sarcastic rob, but it hasnt came across that way and makes me look like a numpty

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