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Posted URGENT pleas help
05-09-2007
17:50 by mwilde
I have some very expensive guppies i have jut imported.

I have just come home to find one of the females dead, and another almost dead.

They seem to have a white tuffty bit on the site, as if they have been bit. On looking close it appear to be as if its bleeding.

The fish that was dead smelt really bad, i very lightly squeesedit and it was full of yellow puss.

05-09-2007
17:51 by mwilde
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05-09-2007
17:51 by mwilde
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05-09-2007
17:51 by mwilde
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05-09-2007
18:06 by -Rob C-
Where abouts have you imported them from?
Imported guppies from the Far East are well known to drop dead easy.
05-09-2007
18:10 by mwilde
Taiwan

I think its a fungal infection - is it work me going to Pet at home now and getting

Interpet Aquarium Anti Fungus and Finrot
05-09-2007
18:21 by robert.pope
are you sure its not ulcers.....im sure the smell would be from the puss and all fish smell if thay have passed away in the morning and only found in late afternoon
05-09-2007
18:22 by alan78
bacterial infection for sure by the looks of it. In my experience female guppies a lot more brone to bacterial infections than males. I would choose interpet Internal Bacteria myself or possibly Waterlife's Myxazin, failing that you could consider ESHA, or a combination of Pimafix and Melafix
05-09-2007
18:24 by robert.pope
what guppys are they ?whats special about them .......that female looks like one of my common guppy......although it looks to have a nice tail patern
05-09-2007
18:26 by mwilde
Even one of the males has a cotton wool like growth on the end of its fin.
05-09-2007
18:27 by mwilde
Red Crown Tails
05-09-2007
18:28 by alan78
i think its been in with fin nippers
05-09-2007
18:28 by telboy
is it just the females that are going down hill? if so maybe they were gravid + the stress of importation has caused the young to die + rot inside female
05-09-2007
18:28 by alan78
okay so there could be some fungus going on

i still say a bacterial med, PLUS salt in the water increased gradually, thats the advantage of guppies, salt, and thats should take care of the fungus and let the med sort the bacteria
05-09-2007
18:32 by -Rob C-
It's probably because they're so in inbred and used to near sterile conditions that they are weak and easily die. Its the same with most fish from the Far East.
05-09-2007
18:32 by mwilde
No - the male has got cotton wool like growth on the fin.


Salt - table salt? How much?
05-09-2007
18:33 by mwilde
So i souldnt have bought from the far east?

I paid over £100.
05-09-2007
18:38 by alan78
table salts not ideal but imo and others it can be used short term if thats all you got, i normally heat salt in a pan on the stove and it dissolves quicker, needs a lot of stirring unless its good quality marine salt, then let water cool, as for doses, do some googling, also read this

http://www.fishdoc.co.uk/treatments/salt.htm

05-09-2007
19:44 by alan.f
hi matthew definately fin rot and fungus,are these the same as you have been selling on ebay if they are maybe you need to mail the buyers that they need to treat there tanks
05-09-2007
19:45 by Nick G
Sorry to hear your bad luck MWilde, especially with how much you paid for them as well. It is a common problem, I tend to get mine from UK breeders, got to know a few on Ebay (not ideal area for dedicated hobbiests and shipping live fish I know) and also from Livebearer web sites as well. Some of the good sellers with some good info include (search ebay using item number as an example

270160847478
Any or any fish from aquaman0_6 seller, Tim and Dave a A1

The treatments that Alan78 mentioned (apart from the salt) have worked for me, but it did take quite a while to clear. Good luck mate, let us know how you got on (and how many of the fish you actually got for £100)

05-09-2007
20:06 by mwilde
alan.f

No these are not the fish on ebay, they have never even been near them.

These are 4 pairs i bought from abroad that are currently in quarenteen.
05-09-2007
20:46 by telboy
£100 for 8 guppies?:o
05-09-2007
20:52 by mwilde
well actually £150.

But whos counting!
05-09-2007
21:13 by Ed
Have to agree with rob c on this guppies used to be tough as old boots but they now breed them in chemical baths which weakens the strain ,better off buying from uk breeders.
05-09-2007
21:21 by mwilde
Well i can honeslty say i have learnt my lesson now.
05-09-2007
22:59 by Woz
got to say, the guppies are really nice but i couldnt justify that amount of money on them unless it was a very serious breeding program like im sure uve got/had, sorry to hear anout your loss
05-09-2007
23:50 by robert.pope
GOOD LUCK i hope you mannage to treat the infected fish!

i would recoment every fish keeper to keep some medication salt (API,dOCTOR FISH} in stock .....at all times
06-09-2007
09:26 by mwilde
Thank you everyone.

06-09-2007
12:09 by -Rob C-
I would have to agree with other people, buy from local breeders. It's easy enough to get good strains, there's quite a few UK guppy forums, where you should be able to get intouch with breeders and there fish should be much hardier. Also they'll be less stressed as they won't be transported for as long.
06-09-2007
13:08 by telboy
be cheaper too! £150 for 8 guppies? im gobsmacked
06-09-2007
13:21 by mwilde
Thanks.

I have bought from local show winning breeders in the past - however these were not avialble in the UK. I wanted them so i bought them.

How do you all think new stains come into the hobby, if you dont import them?
06-09-2007
13:23 by mwilde
£150 for a rare stain, being imported into the UK, is not that expensive. A good pair of guppies from a top UK breeder are £20.

I bought 4 pairs for my £150.
06-09-2007
13:28 by mwilde
All tropical fish are imported at some point.
06-09-2007
13:42 by Alan
esha 2000 treats bacteria and fungus
06-09-2007
13:48 by mwilde
I have been to the fish shop today. I have bought some Pimafix and Melafix.I also got some salt.

Im planning on adding the Pimaix and Melafix to the tank, and maybe putting the guppies in a salt bath. I dont want to add the salt to the tank as i have a couple of baby corydoras in the tank to clean the bottom. I need to treat the corydoras now incease they have caught anything. Corydoras will not tolerate salt.
06-09-2007
17:03 by keith t
Must have more money than sense, nealy 30 quid for a eastern imported guppy
06-09-2007
17:05 by keith t
Are you sure there wasnt meant to be a zero on the end of the eight
06-09-2007
20:51 by WAYNE
the best treatment for guppy disease is
OSCARS
07-09-2007
17:04 by Lnrak
I think your all a bit hard - the blokes asked for help...
07-09-2007
18:19 by mwilde
Yes i would agree!

A lesson learnt i think.
07-09-2007
23:51 by alan78
whats up with this forum, nothing happening at all, its gone to the dogs
08-09-2007
11:39 by keith t
I think the majority uses other forums and just have a look in from time to time to see whats happening. Too many arguements going on, too many kids and alot of know all know *** all people on here aswell.
Thats in my opinion anyway
08-09-2007
12:25 by Fry Lover
alright Keith
08-09-2007
13:08 by Nick G
What other forums Keith?

08-09-2007
20:16 by mwilde
I would also be intrested in anyone recommending other good forums.
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