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The ones I have are a mix of Plakats (shorter finnage types) and half moon normal finnage types. 10-09-2007 08:24 by yanton Here is my latest aquisition - came direct from Thailnad in a box, by royal mail. This is a yellow plakat. I got a pair. They are large chunky fish with a good strong colour. I am trying to breed him with a long finned half moon giant female with cambodian mixed colours - as long finnage is a dominant gene over the short tail plakat finnage the offspring should be long finned giants. Hoping that the brood will be successful. Here is a pic of him - handsome brute: 10-09-2007 08:26 by yanton Here are some other giant bettas (siamese fighters) I have: 10-09-2007 08:27 by yanton The one above is a BIG male. He is a bit lazy about spawning though - cant seem to get him going. I am trying breeding him right now with the female sibling of the yellow male above. 10-09-2007 08:28 by yanton Here is another long finned half moon giant male. A good strong solid red. Another big fish. 10-09-2007 08:29 by yanton All my fish came over by EMS and Royal Mail from Thailand. No problems. 10-09-2007 08:31 by yanton Here is another beautiful male (plakat type) giant. He is bit younger than the others and seems to just want to chase his females around and not get down to breeding. A stunning fish though with great genes potential. If I can get him breeding with a good long finned giant female the long finned offspring should be spectacular. 10-09-2007 08:36 by yanton I am very excited about my first seemingly successful breeding of giants. It is with the plakat giant red male betta below and a long finned multi coloured female. The eggs are due to hatch today. 10-09-2007 08:37 by JOHANSWAN lovely fish you have there yanton bettas are a great species to breed and all succes with you breeding program 10-09-2007 08:37 by yanton this is a truly stunning male. better than the picture. just hope the hatch goes OK and I will have a few hundred giant baby bettas, long finned reds and other colours. 10-09-2007 08:54 by yanton The current crop of babies I have are all from the male below. A normal size betta (and my first attempt). There are over 100 babeis about 2 months old, up to nearly an inch. They are already starting to show a wide range of colours - fascinating. 10-09-2007 08:57 by yanton just to explain to those not in the know, what a half moon (abbreviated HM) betta is. Notice the tail finnage onthe betta above. it is half of a circle. that is the half moon finnage. this is far differnet from the lower quality betas usually sold in shops. you get these through the hobbyist network, or specialists like kg bettas. they are much more beautiful than normal veiltail or delta bettas. 10-09-2007 09:06 by yanton I have worked out an easy cheap method of keeping male bettas (to seperate them) it gives them plenty of room and only 20p each. It only works for open topped aquariums. you need 20p bottles of sainsburys cheap lemonade, a soldering iron and short bamboo canes or plant stakes. First drian out the lemonade or force a sugar rush and premature diabetes on the kids by getting them to drink it all. then rinse out. cut with scissors around the top leaving a half inch hinge (so that can then bend backwards to put the fish in). you can feed through the top (obviously discard the bottle top). next in the bottom use your soldering iron to burn plenty of drainage holes which allows fresh tank water in and wast out. then burn near the top (just below the cut around) 2 holes through which you thread the bamboo canes. You can put several bottles along the cane. then suspend in your tank. the males have plenty of room and the females swim freely around them. works great for my fish. 10-09-2007 09:10 by yanton Here is where i get my betas from: aqua bid bettas and here is the best betta forum i have found: betta forum 10-09-2007 10:55 by yanton yipee, the yellow male (top picture) is breeding right now (as i type) with a long finned HM mulicolour female. just seen the first 50+ eggs drop down. Amazing. Now I just hope both are fertile. 2 crops of giant betta fry at once. 10-09-2007 14:13 by tasha congrats i love bettas x 10-09-2007 14:57 by yanton yes!!! the giant red betta eggs have hatched. the fry are bouncing up and down around the bubble nest. the yellow giant betta seems to have been a successful spwning. what a great hobby! 10-09-2007 15:28 by yanton Here is the red male guarding his newly hatched fry: 10-09-2007 15:29 by yanton here are pictures just taken of the 20p method of keeping males seperate. Masses more room than you get in those little traps. 10-09-2007 15:29 by yanton ... 10-09-2007 15:32 by yanton this is my conditioning and adult stock tank. i look and see which fish fancy each other (they have individual tastes and prefences) and if it fits into what i am trying to breed, i isolate them together in well planted tanks (plenty of hiding places for a breather for the female) for breeding. i use the same bottle method to house the female in front of the male to get him bubble nest building. 10-09-2007 16:56 by Woz nice setups yanton, looks like youve put some time into it and its paying off, not i big fan of the normal bettas but some of them are so stunning your making me think about getting some imported 10-09-2007 17:06 by yanton Its great watching the youngsters grow. 100 young siamese fighters, all different variations of colours. I must check on them about 10 times a day. 10-09-2007 18:05 by Nick G Keep the progress photo's coming Yanton, trying to breed a pair of betta's myself 10-09-2007 18:05 by Nick G Keep the progress photo's coming Yanton, trying to breed a pair of betta's myself 10-09-2007 19:58 by robert.pope Its nice of you to show us what your upto ! any chance of seeing a big female photo? 10-09-2007 20:05 by -Rob C- Stunning! If only I had the time/money/space. 10-09-2007 23:18 by telboy stunning fish + much better than most lfs setups yanton + i know you look after ya fish but i still think its cruel to keep fish no matter what fish in such cramped conditions 10-09-2007 23:35 by -Rob C- Telboy, bettas naturally don't have lots of space, so they won't be too bothered about that. Using bottles is the only realistic way of keeping these fish when breeding unless you want to spent loads on a setup with lots of small tanks, which would work out about the same size anyway. 11-09-2007 00:43 by telboy yeah i know that rob,but still seems cruel to me,especially in lfs when they keep em in a row in those tiny pots not much bigger than a pint glass... 11-09-2007 00:44 by Fry Lover A10 shop 11-09-2007 09:08 by yanton Picture below is the male I have just purchased and should arrive next week. I am hoping to get a sibling female to try and establish the colours. This is a Giant HM PK (half moon plakat). Handsome fish. 11-09-2007 09:09 by yanton ... 11-09-2007 09:09 by yanton what a fantastic fish 11-09-2007 15:17 by Woz what sort of prcies are you paying for them if you dont mind me asking 11-09-2007 15:21 by yanton shipping is about £25 up to 6 in a box. this male was expensive (a very special rare fish) at approx £30. Females are £15. Show quality half moon bettas (not giants) cost around £12 each. 11-09-2007 17:32 by robert.pope in comparrison its alot cheaper than say breeding discus.....and they dont require as much space! i must admit in the shops i have visited im my 10 years keeping fish i have not yet seen these fih in jars that peeps talk about 11-09-2007 17:36 by robert.pope Yanton out of intrest with the males being able to see one another do they not show off/try to fight all the time? i have never kept them so im asking as a novice 11-09-2007 19:28 by yanton they show off a bit, but only occasionally through the day, they get used to their neighbours. they show off more when a female swims by, or when the single free swimming male checks them out. 12-09-2007 06:59 by Phill Austen Do the halfmoons breed true, or do you only get a few from each batch of fry? 12-09-2007 07:25 by yanton It depends on the pedigree line of the parents. My current batch of 100+ babies seems to be showing at least 50% halfmoon, and the others delta type tails. 25-09-2007 19:56 by Nick G You probably will be a member on this forum, but here you go Yanton: http://www.fish-keeper.net/worldofbettas/index.php?showforum=63 15-10-2007 11:01 by Nick G Any luck yet in breeding them Yanton? I am trying to breed a pair of Fighters but not having much luck. Hopefully I have managed to source two pairs of Betta Simplex for one of my other tanks to give them a go at breeding as well 15-10-2007 17:21 by yanton yes i have about 75 youngsters. the largest are already 1cm. some are just starting to show some colour. they are definately growing quicker than standard bettas. best betta forum is: http://z7.invisionfree.com/BettaBreeders/index.php something else i have found interesting is that plakat giant bettas (these ar ethe group i have focused on now) can be kept together males and females as long as you have about 4 males or more. they do get some frayed fins initially, but after a few days finally realise they are getting nowhere scrapping and settle down - just sparring and retreating. like a shoal of tiger barbs, the more you have, the better they are as a group. 15-10-2007 17:23 by yanton one of my recently aquired giant male plakat halfmoon bettas. normal abbreviation is: Giant HM PK 15-10-2007 19:16 by Nick G Any pictures of your first batch of frms?y? What are you planning on doing with the fry, are they spoken for or will you be selling through the other foru 15-10-2007 19:17 by Nick G ....furums 15-10-2007 19:18 by Nick G Yanton, how big a tank do you use for breeding them once you have selected a viable pair? 15-10-2007 19:31 by yanton a 3ft tank with lots of cover for the female (i use lots of artificial plants). 15-10-2007 19:53 by Nick G I have ste up four different sized tanks a few months ago in my garage to try my hand at breeding different fish, definately going to give betta's a real good go (always been a favourite) and I have 2 pairs of Simplex on their way to me which I hope to get going aw well. I think the bottle pictures you posted are a great idea, especially as they allow the pairs to form and you can choose to breed them if you so desire. Will set that up myself in the future some time. Do you still keep your Tangynikans? 15-10-2007 20:49 by yanton got no tanganyikans any more - great fish though. too many fish-types, too little time. i am fancying setting up a mixed cichlids tank for severums, firemouths, jewels, etc. 15-10-2007 21:48 by Nick G You have done a lot of switching in the last year or so, marines, tangs etc. Know what you mean though, had community in my main tank, then now have tengs and toying with switching to malawi's. Must have cost you a fair penny or two 19-10-2007 12:24 by aitchvee They're beautiful. Are you selling the spawn? If so, when? Thanks. 19-10-2007 13:42 by yanton babies are about .5cm to 1cm at present. will see how they get on. too early to sell yet. below are some pictures of the giant plakat bettas i have just ordered from thailand - cant wait to get them. 19-10-2007 13:44 by yanton ... this is a female: 19-10-2007 13:45 by yanton thats another male above. check out this male: 19-10-2007 13:45 by yanton ... 19-10-2007 13:46 by yanton ... 19-10-2007 13:46 by yanton due to arrive end next week. 19-10-2007 21:04 by Nick G How much have the fish and shipping set you back? 19-10-2007 21:46 by yanton These 5 cost £70 inc shipping 19-10-2007 22:23 by Nick G Where did you spot them? NEW REPLIES ARE NOW CLOSED ON THIS FORUM We invite you to join the NEW Aquarist Classifieds Fishkeeping Forum HERE Your contributions to this forum are greatly appreciated. This forum will be retained in archive status for reference. Adverts Previous Fish Biz Sitemap Links All Sponsor Clubs Webmaster Our Sponsors ShopAds Visits

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