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| Posted | LIGHTING FOR PLANTED TANK |
| 16-09-2007 22:07 by WAYNE |
I ANT TO SET UP A PLANTED TANK , IM USING MY OLD 4X2X2 MARINE TANK WITH SUMP , I STILL HAVE THE 150W HALIDE ON IT CAN I USE THAT FOR TROPICAL PLANTS WILL THIS IMPROVE GROWTH , ALSO WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU ADD TO MAKE PLANTS GROW BETTER APART FROM PEAT AND PLANT FOOD ? IM ADDING 600 NEONS AND 30 CORY JULII AND 12 CLOWN LOACH |
| 16-09-2007 23:13 by Fry Lover |
you got your eye on any particular plants Wayne? You just want fast growing ones? Is this for a "show tank" kinda thing in your home?
and 600 neons? you tight git, is that all you can get? |
| 16-09-2007 23:39 by telboy |
you give up on them thar marines then matey or what? |
| 16-09-2007 23:42 by telboy |
sorry to butt in wayne,but im after a 36x18x18[or near to]+ skimmer +t5 lights? know anyone can help out? also need a 4fter as mines cracked!  |
| 16-09-2007 23:49 by Fry Lover |
well co2 is the what peeps add basically apart from ferts really, but for a 4x2x2 thats a pressurised system really i think you'll need.
So is a Halide a T5? As for a 4x2x2 fully planted up, 150W isnt actually that much, as they go WPG (watt per gallon) for plant growth (US Gallon) and a 4x2x2 being 122 US Gallon (100 UK Gallon) you be left with only 1.2 WPG which is considered "low", i run my planted tank at about 1.8 WPG (x4 40W Bulbs, all with reflectors for a 48x24x18 tank which is 89 US Gallons) God knows why its US gallons peeps always use, even in the UK on a lot of forums. The WPG assumes you using reflectors. Light levels above 2.0 WPG and your supposed to need co2 for sure I use Seachem Flourish Excel as my fertiliser and its generally well regarded. I used to use Seachem Excel as a carbon supplement, but there's a bit of controversy as to how safe this is for certain types of plants, and it can be dangerous to some fish depending on dosage from what i hear. As for substates, no idea? i just use normal sand, does peat really make a difference? I am not sure, in all these flashy planted tanks i see on forums and the plant experts speaking, no one says they using peat as a substrate. They often mention stuff like this http://www.onlineaquariumstore.com/acatalog/Sera_Floredepot_4_7kg.html http://www.aquaessentials.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=196 http://www.aquaessentials.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=194 in fact, i dont see anyone listing peat as their substrate on forums where they give out their specs for their planted tank, maybe peat is good though? My own tactics are -sand - low surface movement during day to help keep whatever co2 i do have IN the water for the plants - increase surface agitation at night, of my fish all end up gasping in morning doe to co2 rise during the night -Seachem Ferts - about 2 WPG (US) with reflectors - heavily stocked with fish - atleast 30% water change per week - my lights are on for about 12-14 hrs per day, i dont have much grief with algae also think about some Bristlenose Plecs, as you might get algae blooms in early days and generally speaking the feedback on most forums is BN plecs are plant-safe, most peeps say they only f*** up the plants if they got absolutely no other food source. I can testify to this, they are fine in my planted tank. |
| 16-09-2007 23:52 by telboy |
oi lurver lurver, you bored or summat? |
| 16-09-2007 23:52 by Fry Lover |
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| 16-09-2007 23:54 by telboy |
guess ya are? |
| 16-09-2007 23:54 by -Rob C- |
I wouldn't bother with clown loach - mines took a like to eating my plants |
| 16-09-2007 23:55 by Fry Lover |
as for plants Edwards, i stick to my tried and tested "hard water, no co2" plants
Moss Balls Onion Plants Hygraphila Java Fern Annubias Vallis Amazon Sword Riccia (floating) Duck Weed Fast growing plants like Onion Plants Hygraphila Riccia Duck Weed are particularly good when you start, as they will out compete the algae also, get yourslf a whole load of Java Fern if you can. |
| 16-09-2007 23:57 by Fry Lover |
too busy to be bored Uncle, just took delivery of another Rio 300, got loads of fish in buckets here, including 2 of the most beatiful Blue Acara you will ever see (finnage wise) and they about 5" each |
| 16-09-2007 23:58 by telboy |
ill swop ya a 6x2x2 for a rio 300 |
| 17-09-2007 00:02 by Fry Lover |
oh yeh? what one? what 6x2x2?
and how comes mate? Does Wayne mind his thread being hijacked by you? Well i guess your Uncle, so what Uncle wants, Uncle gets |
| 17-09-2007 00:10 by telboy |
want a nice tank to upgrade me marines mate |
| 17-09-2007 00:14 by Fry Lover |
gonna email you now |
| 17-09-2007 00:16 by telboy |
ok
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| 17-09-2007 07:55 by WAYNE |
hijackers ,cheers for input ............alex that is |
| 17-09-2007 09:25 by perky |
Fancy that wayne having hes thread hijacked..
Makes a change rather than wayne doing it to someone elses thread.. |
| 17-09-2007 19:07 by keith t |
Wayne, you will need to aim towards 3wpg lighting, pressurised co2 jbl would be my prefered choice and a good substrate like the caribsea eco complete. I use biovert fertilizer but there are so many fertilizers for differant nutrients its way above me.
However the plant aspect is to vast and complcated for a forum like this and you are better getting advice from the specialised forums for plants. |
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