Home Adverts Recent Added Auction Scam Alerts Fishkeeping Forum List Your Ad ShopAds Videos
Tropical Fish Aquariums & Equip Marine Fish & Marine Inverts Cichlids Malawi Tanganyikan Cichlids
Wanted Discus Goldfish, Koi & Ponds Retailers & Services ALL ADS By County

Home      Reply		Viewed: 389 -- Replies: 33
PM | All Topics | General | Cichlids | Marine | Coldwater | Tanks/Equipment | Diseases | Members

Posted	Gold Ram
19-09-2007 14:05 by spurson	Help needed, i had a couple of gold rams 1 died so i replaced it but the new one was dead within an hour and a half of being in the tank any idea why it would have died so quick??.
19-09-2007 14:18 by telboy	could be water parameters! what are they?is the surving ram a male?what other fish are in the tank? maybe bullying!did you acclimatise the new fish?
19-09-2007 14:26 by spurson	Right here goes,PH about 7ish,4 angels 2 gourami,lots of BNs,2 kribs,2 corydoras,1 spotted dora,4 danioni, the tank is a 6ft.
19-09-2007 14:27 by spurson	yes i did acclimatise them about hal an hour.
19-09-2007 14:31 by spurson	yes it a male , sorry.
19-09-2007 14:52 by Woz	what about your other water parameters? how longs the tank been setup?
19-09-2007 15:01 by Nick G	What is the nitrate reading and what is the exact PH. I think Rams do prefer soft water as well
19-09-2007 15:02 by spurson	2 yrs, nitrate is 0,nitrite is 0,Ammonia is 0.25.
19-09-2007 15:05 by spurson	p.h 6.8
19-09-2007 15:14 by Nick G	Need to have low nitrate reading as well, they need really clean water as well
19-09-2007 15:16 by Nick G	Zero nitrate??? I thought it was only possible in marines Might be worth taking a sample to your LFS as this nitrate reading seems wrong to me (I could be wrong though)
19-09-2007 15:16 by Nick G	Especially with a redaing showing on amonia
19-09-2007 18:18 by robert.pope	ok it could be the picked on by the male that you have,however a 6 foot tank size should have room for it to hide.2 kribs may be to blame. some shops keep their rams in Ro water like discus so it may be a water quality issue.. or just a bad purchase did the fish look 100% healthy in the shop? beautifull fish i love them
19-09-2007 18:21 by Elmo	Your cribs could be to blame if they are a pair, possibly something wrong with water that other fish are used to but not for new fish, they need soft water, i have bred these myself and if water is not right they can soon go down hill (bad stock)
19-09-2007 19:57 by spurson	the fish was fine for about 20 / 25 mins then disapeared the next thing i knew it was struggling to keep upright then it ,i put it in a breeding net then it died??,nothing seemed to touch it.
19-09-2007 20:02 by spurson	just done another water test and the ammonia is 0.25.
19-09-2007 20:05 by robert.pope	water conditions must be different to that at the shop! to me it sounds like it died from shock.......for it to die so soon! take a sample of water along with dead fish if its a decent shop and your water tested by the shop turned out to be perfect then they should give you a new fish. i have had a couple of free fish from a shop that i have a good relationship with
19-09-2007 20:12 by spurson	i also spoke to the shop he said he dos`nt want the fish but to take a water sample and if its ok he will replace it so thats ok, Thanks folks you have been great, John..
19-09-2007 20:19 by robert.pope	if your ph is 7 then that 0.25 is within the maximum limit of 3.6 at a temperature of 25 deg C and ph of 7 to have any reading it shows a problem with your filter! have you cleand it recent and some how caused the good bacteria to die?
19-09-2007 21:05 by spurson	no robert ,i`vecleaned it how i always do and never had a prob?i`m stumped i think it must have been shock??.
19-09-2007 21:51 by robert.pope	ok well can you do me a favour.....when the shops tested your water , let us all know the results and how you got on!
19-09-2007 22:22 by tucker	when you have sorted ya water out pm me i have just bought a breeding pair of my mate he as a few left and he will post
19-09-2007 22:36 by robert.pope	tucker how much does he want for them ? i can get them from my local at £6 each or 2 for £10 and i get a further 10% off my last pair i got for £9 and they are the same full colour as my photo above
20-09-2007 10:50 by spurson	will do robert,later today and thanks tucker
20-09-2007 22:07 by tucker	i will let yoy no when i see him at weekend,i paid £15 for 2 but are a pair,if you can get them at that price from lfs i would go there as postage is expensive.good luck
21-09-2007 11:41 by spurson	Right peeps, it seems my testing kit was the problem I took a sample and had it tested and heres what i got,KHtest=2 drops should be 7 / 8 drops, Ammonia test=1.0 mg/L,Nitrate test=80.0 mg/L should be 0.0 / 10.0 mg/L, so i`m sorry to have wasted your time but thanks
21-09-2007 12:12 by spurson	The bloke in the shop tried to get me to buy some "Bacineetes" i didnt as i thought i would go with the water changes and some KH Plus, but has anyone used it and more importantly does it work??.
21-09-2007 13:42 by telboy	hello spurson, what filtration/media are you using? also what water changes do you do?nowadays most folk frown on ceramic tubes + bio balls as they're considered to be nitrate factories,although i still use em in my fresh water tanks,i clean em + all sponges in tank water every water change,i also opt for alfa grog as a media,very ifficient in my oppinion,also you could be feeding too much, try cutting down on food, clean ya filters, + do 20% water changes twice a week for 2-3 weeksyou should notice a vast improvement,also you could try a chemical filter,maybe rowaphos or greenaway could help ya,just whack em in ya filters...hope this helps cheers terry
21-09-2007 14:12 by spurson	Terry, i`ve got a 50 gal tank and use sponge filters there are 3 of different guages , i`ve been doing a 10% water change every 2 weeks and clean the sponges once a month??,as for feeding you are probably right as the missus is always moaning that the fish look hungry !!.
21-09-2007 14:16 by spurson	I`ve got a pond and when i started it i put some A.B.A bacteria in the filter, could i use it in my tank and would it help??.
21-09-2007 15:15 by telboy	if i were you id invest in a decent external filter,also id up the water changes to 20% weekly mate,cut down on feeding to every other day,get a new test kit
21-09-2007 20:42 by spurson	yep Tel i got one today a "Phoenix" water test kit it does Ammonia x 20,Nitrite x 20, Nitrate x 20 and PH x 50, should be ok??
23-09-2007 10:58 by big cats	i dont understand how something can be a nitrate factory, its simple chemistry ... nitrate is the result of the breakdown of waste products ,and within a closed system its simple, the amount of nitrate produced is in line with the amount of waste . a filter cant make EXTRA nitrate it only processes the existing waste, if you want to remove nitrate then it has to be done in other ways (resin,plants ,water changes etc) some good advice on this thread for a change though
24-09-2007 00:02 by robert.pope	Big cats i think its thought that they harbour the nitrates in traped matter within the bioballs,clay tubes.......well thats how i thought it became a factory ( i may be wrong on this )

Adverts Previous Fish Biz Sitemap Links All Sponsor Clubs Webmaster Our Sponsors ShopAds Visits