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| Posted | What cichlids - maybe starting again? |
| 17-02-2008 18:58 by Andygowing |
I've kept small adult tropheus dubosi and frontosa together from young in a 48 inch tank (about 200 lts) for several years now but it's just not working. Due to an aggresive male tropheus I'm now down to only 1 female previously 3 and the 3 frontosa are now taking lumps out of each other. Also in the tank I have a cat fish, 1 yellow chihidica (spelling?) and a pair of brichardi who seem fine and don't get involved in the fihts with the exception of the cat fish who occaisionally does. The tropheus have breed well and I now have 20 to 30 juvenilles in another 3 foot tank but they are out growing it. Something has to change. I'm thinking of selling the adult tropheus male and the frontosa's and moving the juvenilles into the 48 inch tank. Is this the best move? Will I be able to introduce the adult female tropheus to the juvenilles now or in the future or do I need to move her on too? I think I have a good handle on water conditions for Tanganikans so would like to stick with this laek, I've really only lost fish to fighting. If the plan I have isn't best, I'm tempted to start again with perhaps another less troublesome species or species mix that are attractive, interesting and not impossible to breed. Any suggests what I should/could do out there? |
| 17-02-2008 21:54 by Fry Lover |
Not sure if you only want Tangs..... but anyway
"less troublesome species or species mix that are attractive, interesting and not impossible to breed" well, Mbuna springs to mind, especially if your tap water parameters are good for Tangs, then they'll be fine for Mbuna i still think the "less troublesome" part of your quote stands if you carefully select the type of Mbuna. You could go for some of more easy going Mbuna like Yellow labs, white-tail Acei or Rusty's There's also the slightly more risky, but still manageable Mbuna like Socolofi, Greshakei and Red Zebra's I cant comment or advise on your troubles with the Tropheus Dubosi or Frontosa i am afraid. Ray on here might know..... Also Woz and Yanton might be able to help..... |
| 18-02-2008 11:33 by Alan |
Your tank is too small for 3 frontosa and how many Tropheus do you have?
I think of tropheus as I would mbuna they need to be over stocked and there needs to be loads of rock work for them. This helps diffuse their aggression and prevents them from picking on anyone individual. The other thing with tropheus is that they have a completely different diet from Frontosas and therefore do not make easy tank mates as a diet suitable for a frontasa may actually kill a tropheus and if you fed a frontosa a tropheus diet it would never do as well as it potentially could. I would suggest a complete rethink on the fish you stock. Either rehome the tropheus and frontosa and set up a peacefulish tang tank focusing on small tang cichlids or add about 15 more adult tropheus to the tank and up the filtration and rehome all the frontosa. Personally I like peace and quite and would go for the following in a peaceful tang tank. Keep the brichardi rehome the frontosa and tropheus. Reposition the rock to create a cave at one end or in a way to maximise the open water space then stock some of the schooling cichlids on tanganyka. They all stay relatively small ideal in a 200 lt tank and are all peaceful with each other if kept in a group also if they do not get stressed they will colour up to an absolutely stunning variety of colours. In addition with these small peaceful tangs you could keep a small group of shell dwellers I kept these for a while and they are absolutely stunning little fish I can very much recommend their behaviour is a joy to watch. Careful stock planning is the key to solving your problems. |
| 18-02-2008 12:25 by andy gowing |
Thanks for the advice so far. One conclusion that I had already reached was that I hadn't been sold a wise fish combination in the first place when I was green. I certainly wouldn't buy it now and was aware of the diet issues - but thanks to Alan for confirming that I now understand why it's not working. Alan - can you name some the peasceful tangs that you have in mind please. |
| 19-02-2008 12:17 by telboy |
go usa stylee much less agro |
| 19-02-2008 19:26 by Woz |
hi andy, as mentioned above fronts dont go too well with tropheus, at the minute i keep tropheus and malawis aswell as frontosa,i personally wouldnt mix my tropheus with anything but a few tanganyikan catfish i.e s multis or petricola, id only keep these catfish with them to keep the bottom clean and also because they dont really bother the tropheus too much.
You could possibly keep the young dubosi with the adult female, but when you have a group of 30 juveniles its going to be quite pointless because they do grow pretty quick anyway (you should have them around breeding size within a year) Anyway if you decide against dubosi you can always sell them to me  |
| 19-02-2008 19:28 by Fry Lover |
all i ever read about on forums is tropheus kicking arse and killing each other  |
| 19-02-2008 19:53 by Woz |
thats why im secretly getting scared, my main/first good sized group are just coming to breeding size, i do still keep a few adult dubosi and they get along ok'ish, they have their moments but thats because no one has adult females for sale near me for less than £40. |
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