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Posted	To fry lover
19-02-2008 13:35 by Dominic	yo dude, i bought a moss ball the other day, its started getting grey spots on it, it that where theres not enough light? and can i split it to make more? thanks m8
19-02-2008 13:49 by telboy	frys balls are mossy, so he'll know what to do
19-02-2008 14:03 by Fry Lover	you can split the moss balls, i've done it before and they still were okay and didnt die off. as for grey spots, i have one or two that get that, you can try to move them around a bit but its weird, most of moss balls are completely green, even the bits that get no light, so i dont think that moss balls have to be "turned", can you imagine what a pain that would be? I've got over 30 balls (moss LOL) and i dont want to be turning them every few weeks!!! They dont require lots of lights. Where did you get it from? Are there any other plants in the tank? how are they doing. you on the wacky backy today Tel
19-02-2008 14:03 by Fry Lover	most of my moss balls are completely green i mean
19-02-2008 14:19 by telboy	no, just extremely bored
19-02-2008 14:19 by Dominic	haha, i bought it from a shop in chard, only 2 quid so i thought i would get one. your lot must have cost a fortune! ive got quite a few plants in there, i have jungle vallis. some wierd amazon swords that the leave sides twist. the rest of the plants are small cuttings that are getting established. Alternanthera reineckii, stricta, some bacopa. my tank used to be stuffed full to the brim but i had a case of hair algae that killed most of them off. also i have some nice red lotus lillies. Oh i have some of that hygro that you have but i put it in the downstairs tank because it grows to tall and looks messy when cut.I have a limit to the plant types i can grow due to the tank lid only holding 2 20 watt gro lux tubes. shame really. I want to get some blackwater stuff and some leaves on the bottom and turn it brackish soon for my puffers. getting bored of attempted plant tanks! thanks m8
19-02-2008 14:20 by Fry Lover	my quick tips for plant growth, 1. decide if you want a planted tank, if you do, i say PACK it out, but it will cost a bit, i find that the more plants you have the better they all grow, they will also out-compete algae if the conditions are appropriate for plant growth. 2. If you are not using co2 which i dont, aim for about 1.5 to 2.0 watts-per-US Gallon, preferably tubes that are not over 12-months old. 3. Experiment with light duration, try to keep the lights on for as long as possible, but not to the point where algae is a problem, i keep my lights on 12-14 hours a day, but its packed with plants which helps stop algae getting a foot-hold 4. Use a fertliser, i recommend Seachem Flourish, add tiny bits twice a week. Dont use Seachem Excel, or if you do, there are some plants you cant keep with it or they actually die. 5. Minimum water change should be 25% weekly. 6. I live in a hard water area and i dont use co2, so that puts me at a slight disadvantage, but i have had "great" success with Moss Balls, Onion Plants and Dwarf Anubia and "decent success" with Java Fern, Vallis and Riccia 7. Onions plants are GREAT all around and fast growing, fast growing plants help out-compete the algae for nutrients in your tank, thus helping reduce algae which is very useful when you have lots of lighting on for long periods, basically the plants grow great, but the algae doesn't. Dont cover the Onion Bulb in the substrate 8. I've never had a Dwarf Anbubia die on me, they are all lush green dark leaves and i have about 8 of them. Only draw back is the price, they cost me about £4 or £5 each, but were well worth it. 9. I've had better success with "giant" vallis than standard vallis. 10. Java Fern attached to bog wood works better for me than standard java fern for some reason. Dont put all of the Java Fern routes in the substrate 11. I've never managed to get Java Moss growing (not moss balls, just moss), strange!
19-02-2008 14:21 by Fry Lover	i think my moss balls worked out at about £1 each of e-bay Dominic, didnt buy them all at once, was just so impressed, i kept going back for more!
19-02-2008 14:22 by Fry Lover	i think Seachem Excel directly kills hair algae
19-02-2008 14:27 by Dominic	Bang on mate, thanks for the tips i will try abide them as much as possible. i was using anti hair algae for a long time but with no result, then i found some siamese algae eaters at 2 quid each, but by the time i bought them it was all gone anyway. i supose the key to success is to start with easy plants then work up with harder to grow plants, trial and error really. How do you keep the subtrate clean with all the plants along the bottom??
19-02-2008 14:38 by Fry Lover	"How do you keep the subtrate clean with all the plants along the bottom??" good point... however, most of the plants are not rooted, a lot of the substrate is covered with bog wood/java fern, moss balls, and anubia thats in pots, so its not too hard to get to most of the substrate.
19-02-2008 15:47 by Dominic	simple and effective eh! like it, thanks for the help
19-02-2008 18:53 by Dominic	I was changing the water and the heater was on the water line, i only left it out of the water for about 10 seconds and it cracked, so no heater now! disaster.
19-02-2008 19:27 by Fry Lover	b*llox, i've had that a few times, i also got an electric shock once that "shocked me" lol
19-02-2008 19:33 by telboy	shocking
19-02-2008 19:37 by Fry Lover	like a bolt from the blue it was
19-02-2008 20:13 by Dominic	haha, i was hoping not to get that. it was out of the water, so i let it cool with the power off, so i slowly lowered it into the water and it started bubbling. The bummer is that its not an individual plug, its all wired into the lid of the tank so i had to undo all that *** too!

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