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Posted Red spots
08-09-2005
18:02 by Whatever
Although i've controlled the white spot in my pond im seeing alot of fish with red patches, mostly my goldfish and shubunkins, what's the proper term of this disease and how do i treat it:-?
08-09-2005
19:06 by Linda
Sounds like the fish have got a bit stressed from the white spot, try adding some salt.
08-09-2005
19:09 by Whatever
What kind, im sure you dont mean cooking salt, do you?
08-09-2005
20:30 by Watevur
What salt you talkin' 'bout?
08-09-2005
20:37 by Linda
Pond salt
08-09-2005
22:44 by W.hatE.ver
oh ok
09-09-2005
09:39 by Alan
With out seeing the fish it is difficult to be sure but if all fish are showing signs of this I would suspect there is an underlying cause. Yes the whitespot will have stressed them and left them open to infection but I also suspect there may be a water quality issue here.

Have you checked the following:
Ammonia
Nitrite
Nitrate
PH and hardness

Do you ever change any water in the pond?

The salt will help but you will have to be prepared to do a series of large water changes to remove the salt gradually.

Another thought, are the fins blood streaked? If so it is almost certainly a water quality problem.

The salt you want is basically Sodium Chloride a lot of people use aquarium tonic salt or the pond equivalent I don't bother as it is just precipitated salt water so it has a whole host of other pointless minerals that are of no benefit.

Dish washer salt is the cheapest way of obtaining large quantities of sodium chloride.
09-09-2005
20:35 by Whatever
In reply to Alan's questions:

"Have you checked the following:
Ammonia
Nitrite
Nitrate
PH and hardness"

No

"Do you ever change any water in the pond?"

Yes 40-60% per week


"Another thought, are the fins blood streaked?"

No

09-09-2005
20:54 by danny boy
sounds like an internal infection to me perhaps scepticimia. normally brought around by bad water conditions.

what filtration does your pond offer and i assume you treat the water being added to your pond? its all too easy to recommend adding salt but you need to find the root of the problem and not a quick pep fix for the fish. i would say you may have a problem with your maintance routine. already the fact that you mention you've had ich in the tank suggests your water quality is not very good
09-09-2005
21:01 by Whatevur
So your saying i should do a complete water change of the pond while examining the goldies, shub's and koi in more detail?
09-09-2005
21:31 by danny boy
no never! a complete water change would only serve to starve your bacteria. you only need to do a 30% water change depending on the bio load and the size of the pond maybe every 2 weeks. what im trying to say is that its in your intrest to keep good water quality its your routine that needs to be changed rather than all of the water.

i take it you do have filtration on the pond?

ever seen a really nice koi pond with crystal clear water? thats down to good water conditions and maintance, nothing can be more impressive in a garden
09-09-2005
23:22 by rob
how large are the red spots as it could be wounds caused by fish louse
09-09-2005
23:55 by Whatever
the spots are about 1/4 inch in diameter.
10-09-2005
01:36 by rob
try and net some fish out and look for fish louse as they can leave red marks on the fish where they have been feeding
10-09-2005
01:51 by danny boy
if it is fish louse you will be able to tell as they are tiny brown spots, if you know what you are doing take a scraping and have a look you will more than likely find the correct answer that way.\
im still intrested to hear if you do have aany filtration? you seem to keep avoiding the question
10-09-2005
06:13 by Linda
Any chance you can post a photo?
10-09-2005
07:13 by Whatever
Oh sorry danny boy yes i have a green genie 3000 with a diamond 1200 pump, i snagged the deal of cmc aquatics.

And linda, i may be able to depending on where i left my camera, as i said before i have this video recorder but where the installation cd is i do not know.
And it's a heavy energy drinker, much like a GT40.
11-09-2005
07:40 by Jack
danny boy - you said 'already the fact that you mention you've had ich in the tank suggests your water quality is not very good' sorry but can I just correct you and say that the problem was in a pond.
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